Wimmig wrote:I see i am at the receiving end of alot of heat from my short, brief statement, and i stand by it.
The problem with communities such as the brewing community and the alc. industry when it has a company with loyal followers is they somehow think that their loyal, patriotic stance for a good old friend of a company somehow makes good economic sense.
It doesn't. It never has.
Companies come and go, smart companies stay. Being loyal to a company and their product is one thing, somehow thinking that you can replicate some historic moment in history when one single man can defy an army is another.
Homebrew culture is one thing, but in the real alc. industry it's dog eat dog and you need to know when you are done.
Dogger Dan wrote:I don't know what market share Coopers has but even if its only 2 percent they are doing well and making dollars.
Why would Lion want anything to do with it except for greed? He has a much bigger market share already. Its all about ripping the public as he cuts corners and leaves the prices where they are, selling crappy product under a once reputable name.
Bend over boys and take a bit more. A kiss would be nice once
Dogger
NTRabbit wrote:especially in Victoria which is heavily dominated by Fosters CUB - in that state the LN market share is probably being converted right into Coopers share, with Fosters not losing many points or any sleep over it.
Dogger Dan wrote:We (Canadians) can only get our hands on Coopers, Black Rock and Morgans with the occasional Edme and John Bull so we are limited to poor over priced products.
I discovered Coopers products about 15 years ago and was pleasently suprised. It was hands above any of the other kits. This year I tried Morgans and Black Rock for the HBS and have not been pleased at all, very thin boddied, no real taste.
NTRabbit wrote:In SA they have about 45% of the market share (i think), in the other states it is much smaller but steadily growing, especially in the eastern states where it has apparently become the current trendy beer to have.
anti-fsck wrote:The growth market ... is beer. Maybe Coopers' stranglehold on the SA market is not working in its favour in this instance?
Wimmig wrote:Companies come and go, smart companies stay.
Todays news, a lawyer who has decided he can cash in on the LN offer (and maybe even assist them) is sueing Coopers because he claims they underpaid him during a share buyback in 2003. Rather than asking for monetary compensation, he just wants his shares back. Typical money grubber who just realised he cashed out way too early.
Wimmig wrote:
Companies come and go, smart companies stay. Being loyal to a company and their product is one thing, somehow thinking that you can replicate some historic moment in history when one single man can defy an army is another.
Grabbie wrote:Personally I would like to become a part owner in Coopers and share the profits and have a say in it's future.
Can't do that at the moment.
The Coopers family want the support of the public but don't want the public to share in the spoils.
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