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Manifold

Postby Timmsy » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:09 am

Im looking at making my own manifold today and just curious on what should i make it out of? Cooper of PVC tube? Would it matter making it outa PVC as cooper is bloody expensive? What diameter should i make it of?
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Re: Manifold

Postby Kevnlis » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:20 am

I have a guide on my website, I tried the vinyl tubing for a few brews but it was not as good as the braid I now use.
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Re: Manifold

Postby rwh » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:22 am

Don't make it out of PVC as you can leach chemicals out of it. The cheapest and easiest method is the stainless steel hose braid:

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Re: Manifold

Postby Timmsy » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:27 am

That stainless steel hose braid do you just gut it and use the outa?
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Re: Manifold

Postby warra48 » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:29 am

Timmsy wrote:That stainless steel hose braid do you just gut it and use the outa?


You got it in one, you clever little fellow! That's exactly what you do.
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Re: Manifold

Postby rwh » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:30 am

TFA wrote:The stainless steel hose braid comes from a toilet water supply hose, and I cut the ends of the hose off with a big wire cutter. The stainless braid slips right off the hose inside it. Fold and crimp one end with a pliers, and slip the other end over the copper tube with a hose clamp. Push the drilled stopper over the copper tube so that the narrow end of the stopper is pointed away from the stainless braid. Add a piece of tubing and you are all set.

I cut the ends of mine with a hatchet. The stainless is very hard, so you need to be pretty forceful. ;)

Also, instead of the copper tube, I used a bit of a "little bottler".

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Re: Manifold

Postby Kevnlis » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:32 am

I wrapped a few layers of electrical tape around the braid and cut it with a hacksaw, very clean and no freyed edges.

I used the existing outlet I had built for the vinyl tubing and just attached the braid to that with a hose clamp. I used a marble and a hose clamp to seal the other end (marble inside the braide and the hose clamp holds the braid down around the marble).
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Re: Manifold

Postby Timmsy » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:41 am

i was going to go to the plumbing shop after work to get cooper and the elbows but i would be guessing that would cost me near $40 where i can do what you guys suggested for next to nothing. Am getting my esky ready and all i have to do now is get a bigger pot as i have 2, 1 is 20ltr and the other 11.5ltr. Got the 11ltr one last nite for a whole $17 new. The use to sell big 1s but that side of the company (Cheif) has been sent to China errrrrrr hopefully the markets this sunday will have one for me
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Re: Manifold

Postby rwh » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:43 am

Yep you will need a bigger pot to do the boil in (or you could do a split boil if you don't manage to find one). The 11L one is probably big enough for your mash/sparge water if you do two batch sparges.
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Re: Manifold

Postby Timmsy » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:45 am

ill find one its just when. If not ill have to fork out 200 for a 50ltr. That is just way to crazy!
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Re: Manifold

Postby Kevnlis » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:50 am

Have a look on Allquip. Try your local Army Surplus store, catering suppliers, tackle shop (for boiling seafood), etc.
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Re: Manifold

Postby Timmsy » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:56 am

nice 1. Had a quick gork at allguip and they have 50ltr alloy ones for 95 but you need SS yeah?
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Re: Manifold

Postby Kevnlis » Friday Jan 25, 2008 10:57 am

Why do you need SS? Both of my big stockpots are Aluminium. I would have liked to have had the money to pay for SS, but I am poor! :lol:
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Re: Manifold

Postby Timmsy » Friday Jan 25, 2008 11:00 am

your poor? im a porber thats for sure :D :D . Well i mite chase up a alloy then to. Will keep my eyes open at the markets etc... Shop aroud for abit. I wana do partials for a while 1st untill i get the grisp of this type of brewing
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Re: Manifold

Postby drsmurto » Friday Jan 25, 2008 12:37 pm

Timmsy? You on Grumpys by any chance?

Anyway, if you have a few more coins lying around i can highly recommend the beerbelly false bottom - Link

Its what i use and it works a treat, it allows me to crush very fine and still not affect the sparge flow too much.
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Re: Manifold

Postby Timmsy » Friday Jan 25, 2008 12:48 pm

drsmurto wrote:Timmsy? You on Grumpys by any chance?

Anyway, if you have a few more coins lying around i can highly recommend the beerbelly false bottom - Link

Its what i use and it works a treat, it allows me to crush very fine and still not affect the sparge flow too much.


Yeah mate but i havnt posted much at all or anything i dont think

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Re: Manifold

Postby warra48 » Friday Jan 25, 2008 2:34 pm

Timmsy wrote:nice 1. Had a quick gork at allguip and they have 50ltr alloy ones for 95 but you need SS yeah?


I have a 40 litre alu pot from Allquip. Delivered to my door for about $105. Does me perfectly, as I don't consume enough to ever want to brew more than my standard batch size of about 22 litres. Easy enough to clean with one of those pastic type scrubbies at the end of a brew. Also, the alu pots have a lot thicker base and wall than SS, and I think they give you better heat distribution than pots with a thinner base and walls. Alu is also a helluva lot easier to drill to install a tap than SS.
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Re: Manifold

Postby ilovechocolate2002 » Sunday Jan 27, 2008 7:18 am

with all the dairyfarms lying abandoned at the moment, there are plenty of stainless receival vessels available for next-to -nothing sized 20 lt up to 300lts...also stainless mesh screens(handy, dome shaped) and all sizes of plate-chillers up to BIG
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Re: Manifold

Postby SpillsMostOfIt » Monday Jan 28, 2008 5:43 pm

Thinking about the original question a bit (I don't think a lot about much) the domestic use of copper has been superceded by a grey flexible plastic pipe and bloddy big John Guest fittings. Someone somewhere has decided this is good enough for drinking water at domestic cold/hot water temperatures. It may well be good enough at mash temps too.

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Re: Manifold

Postby rwh » Tuesday Jan 29, 2008 9:22 am

ilovechocolate2002 wrote:if someone can tell me how to post a pic i'll send some...cheers

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