Can't seem to get it right.

The ins and outs of putting your beer into kegs.

Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby hirns » Wednesday Aug 18, 2010 1:34 pm

Anna, also bear in mind that there are different sorts of taps. Some Chinese jobs I've heard can have issues in relation to cleaning. My taps are Andale as used in many pubs and I simply flush the lines and taps as does Dr. Smurto. So like always having the right gear saves a lot of problems. My barfridge/kegerator(homemade) will only only hold one keg so I condition in the keg for a fortnight(if I can wait) and drink tallies in the mean time. If I had a larger fridge(having the right gear) I would cold condition in a cube or in a second keg and therefore would not need to wait (using two kegs verses 60 tallies). I bottled for five years before going to kegs and have spent my time since cursing that I didn't do it sooner. Without dismissings Heal's concerns about his kegging there is a solution to the problem: and I know that you will not give up brewing or go backwards in yourbrewing just because you have experience problems either. Whilst no one is trying to push you, if you can take up Grog's advice by visiting a brewstore or another brewer and check out a kegging setup then you can decide either way.

Hope that doesn't sound too condescending :roll:

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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby Anna » Wednesday Aug 18, 2010 1:50 pm

Not at all! Thanks Hirns - I'll try to find someone. :P
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby SuperBroo » Thursday Aug 19, 2010 5:11 pm

Hi Anna,
I'm only a newbie at kegging, but heres my thinking on it...

You CAN bottle takeaways from a keg, instead of using a party keg, and its quite easy.
I will post some pics of my little setup when I find a way to get them onto photobucket, (every time I try I stuff it up).
So you dont have to take your keg with you, AND - There is no no sediment, AND - if you like you can go the next step and filter your beer. :)

My bottling setup is 2 Metres of 5mm plastic hose (LHBS), a keg gas connector(LHBS), a rubber bung with a 6mm hole in it that fits / seals inside bottle necks (LHBS), a 1/4" brass mini ball valve (Hardware shop), 2 x brass hose tails with 1/4" thread for ball valve to connect to plastic hose.

I bought a small party keg / party tap etc for take away beer, but have never used it, I just bottle up now if I'm heading out.

If you would like some pics of the setup, just PM me with your email address.
(I got the idea from a video clip on utube).

When you read these forums about kegging, you can get all wound up worrying about pressures etc, its as simple as changing the pressure up / down a bit to suit whatever level you want it carbonated. If you just started at say 10 psi (70 Kpa), you would learn quickly and adjust from there, its just not that technical, and there are some really nice advantages with kegging.

I pulled the tap apart when it was new as well, just to see how it works, its all simple.

When I am planning to bottle, I just drop the pressure in the keg down to about 4 psi the day before (adjust regulator down and pull valve on top of keg releases pressure), and also turn the fridge down as cold as possible, usually 1 degree.
Then when bottling I drop the pressure to about 2 psi, and can get the bottles filled to within about 30mm of the top, without losing foam etc.
It takes about 30-40 seconds to fill a 750ml king brown (tallie).

I use brown Pet bottles, and after about 5 minutes in the esky on ice, when you open a bottle you get a good little burst of pressure.

Anyway, I hope all this info from everyone is helping you, you'll like using kegs if you give it a go.

Cheers,
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby speedie » Friday Aug 20, 2010 12:56 pm

anna get bigger saddle bags
you will need to keg each side for balance
now thats a well balanced beer!
hope you get kegging
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby Anna » Friday Aug 20, 2010 12:56 pm

Thanks for that very detailed description Chris. At the moment I won't be getting into kegging, as I have very limited room and finances for any fancier method of brewing. Maybe when I do my planned "sea change" and have lots of room in the Big Shed on our country property, I'll give it a go.

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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby Anna » Friday Aug 20, 2010 1:02 pm

speedie wrote:anna get bigger saddle bags
you will need to keg each side for balance
now thats a well balanced beer!
hope you get kegging
see ya speedie


Speedie - you're an enigma! Sometimes you sound quite sober and normal! How about giving us some sort of clue as to your age/gender/nationality/education level/occupation/sobriety, etc?

That post did bring a smile to my face ! :mrgreen:
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby speedie » Friday Aug 20, 2010 5:36 pm

Anna
This may shock you but I am a normal Fremantle born and bred father of two girls one 18 today the other 21
If I can workout how to post some photos on this site I will send them in of the brew rig I (we) use
Remember don’t worry have a homebrew instead!
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby matr » Friday Aug 20, 2010 5:55 pm

speedie wrote:Anna
This may shock you but I am a normal Fremantle born and bred father of two girls one 18 today the other 21
If I can workout how to post some photos on this site I will send them in of the brew rig I (we) use
Remember don’t worry have a homebrew instead!
The” enigma” speedie :twisted:


Speedie,You, I and anyone else from Perth know that NO ONE in Freo (Hippy central) is "Normal".....

This does put everything into perspective now.... Have another toke Speedie... :lol:
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby speedie » Friday Aug 20, 2010 7:29 pm

now whos slanddering?
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby Tipsy » Friday Aug 20, 2010 10:07 pm

speedie wrote:Anna
If I can workout how to post some photos on this site I will send them in of the brew rig I (we) use



Here ya go Speedie viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9975
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby speedie » Saturday Aug 21, 2010 10:58 am

thankyou tipsy i will look into it
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby speedie » Saturday Aug 21, 2010 11:03 am

anna do you own a 883? mine is 1200!
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby matr » Saturday Aug 21, 2010 6:47 pm

speedie wrote:now whos slanddering?


I was joking around about the freo thing mate. I'm from Perth myself and was brought up in the "Fremantle" district.

Best part of WA!!!

Sorry if you took offence.... :wink:
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby speedie » Saturday Aug 21, 2010 7:14 pm

bloody pot heads your all the same?
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby rotten » Saturday Aug 21, 2010 11:28 pm

speedie wrote:now whos slanddering?


speedie wrote:bloody pot heads your all the same?


What the?
Beer numbs all zombies !!!
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby speedie » Wednesday Sep 01, 2010 10:20 pm

anna do you ride a sporty?
or dyna?
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby matr » Wednesday Sep 01, 2010 10:33 pm

rotten wrote:
What the?


+1 ^
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby hirns » Wednesday Sep 01, 2010 10:37 pm

matr wrote:
rotten wrote:
What the?


+1 ^

+ 3 and completely OT, but he's referring to Anna's Harley pic from when she first learnt to post pics.

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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby speedie » Thursday Sep 02, 2010 12:21 am

only a HD rider would understand
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Re: Can't seem to get it right.

Postby bullfrog » Friday Sep 03, 2010 1:30 am

speedie wrote:only a HD rider would understand

Or a Catholic Priest. Learn to be less creepy, for the sake of all of us.
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