CO2 bottles in fridge

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CO2 bottles in fridge

Postby Chris » Sunday Oct 07, 2007 9:12 am

I'm looking to upgrade to a modified chest freezer, but want to avoid drilling more holes than necessary. Basically, I want to put my CO2 bottle inside.

Will this work, or will it affect my vp too much?

If it will affect vp, can I correct for it?
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Postby lethaldog » Sunday Oct 07, 2007 11:25 am

Ive always had my bottle in the fridge and no probs here :wink:
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Postby Shaun » Sunday Oct 07, 2007 1:08 pm

It will work fine commonly done by many keggers.
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Postby Chris » Sunday Oct 07, 2007 5:17 pm

So you haven't needed to adjust for the different pressure?
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Postby lethaldog » Sunday Oct 07, 2007 6:25 pm

The only difference i have found with others is if they are using a temprite and the kegs are warm then you will need a different pouring preasure but the difference there is with the keg not the temp of the gas/bottle so i dont really see this affecting anything but in saying that i have never used the gas bottle outside the fridge...

My tried and true way of gassing is put the keg in the fridge and set the gas to 50psi/350 kpa and leave it for 24 hours then turn down preasure till you hit pouring preasure which for me is usually between 8-10 psi and start pouring :wink:
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Postby Chris » Monday Oct 08, 2007 8:45 am

Thanks for that. Will give it a go.
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Postby Boonie » Monday Dec 17, 2007 11:50 am

OK, when I checked the kegs yesterday and took a sample :wink: , I noticed that the gauge was in the RED, ie, the CO2 was nearly empty :shock: ....bulldust I thought, I had only carbed up 2 small 19 litre kegs, maybe a leak I thought :? , nup could not hear any.

Could it be the temp of the CO2 affecting the gauge on the bottle? The fridge was pretty much set at the coldest it could go.

It has not affected the pressure gauge which goes to the kegs as it was warm when I turned it on and set to 240 and had not moved at all.....

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Postby racer » Monday Dec 17, 2007 4:25 pm

Was the bottle full?
Has it got an emty weight & full weight stamped on the bottle?
You need to weigh the bottle to see how much is left.
What size bottle?
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Postby Boonie » Monday Dec 17, 2007 5:37 pm

It should be full, I just rented it....first kegs.

It is a 9kg I think, it still weighs full.

I checked tonight and the gauge has gone up since I increased the temp.

It must have affected the bottle with such a cool temp.

When I had the fridge open and setting up/lowering the pressure to pouring temp, you could see where the gas was up to in the bottle by the frost around the lower half of the bottle. It was about halfway down the bottle.

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Postby Paul » Monday Dec 17, 2007 7:45 pm

There will be less pressure in the bottle because its cold.

My gas is next to the chest freezer and on a hot day its got more pressure in the bottle.
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Postby Boonie » Tuesday Dec 18, 2007 11:16 am

Paul wrote:There will be less pressure in the bottle because its cold.

My gas is next to the chest freezer and on a hot day its got more pressure in the bottle.


Thanks guys, I was having a "Holy shit" moment.

I knew it would drop a little, but not into the red on my gauges !!

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Postby Trough Lolly » Tuesday Dec 18, 2007 3:25 pm

G'day Boonie - one other minor point if I may...
It's not necessarily the pressure in the bottle that matters, but the weight of the bottle. You should see the net / tare / empty weight of the gas bottle stamped on it - and the weight of the bottle on a decent set of scales will tell you how much payload CO2 is in the bottle in liquid and gaseous form.

If you pay for a 9kg refill, your bottle in theory should be 9kg heavier than the tare weight otherwise you've been ripped off. The truth of course is that they rarely fill the bottle to the brim with liquid CO2 but if you're bottle's weight is only a kilo or so above the tare weight, I'd take it back and get them to properly fill the bottle...

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Postby Cortez The Killer » Thursday Dec 20, 2007 4:01 pm

I freaked out too when i first put my CO2 bottle in the keg fridge

Dropped to almost nothing

I ended up weighing it and it was the correct weight

I have since taken it out of the fridge to accommadate more kegs!!!

I also got a little paranoid about moisture getting into the reg - after comments from a fellow kegger

I don't have anything definite on whether in/out of the fridge makes any difference

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Postby Trough Lolly » Thursday Dec 20, 2007 6:41 pm

Mine's out of the fridge so I can fit more kegs in the fridge!
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Postby Kevnlis » Thursday Dec 20, 2007 7:48 pm

Is there any benefit to having the keg in the fridge? Other than having to put a hole for the hose.
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Postby Boonie » Friday Dec 21, 2007 11:20 am

Kevnlis wrote:Is there any benefit to having the keg in the fridge? Other than having to put a hole for the hose.


Yeah it keeps the beer cold :lol:

Oh, you mean the Gas Bottle :wink:, no idea Kev but I put mine inside because:
1. 1 Hole less to drill
2. Neater
3. I can still fit another keg next to it :wink:

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Postby Kevnlis » Friday Dec 21, 2007 12:40 pm

Hmm... I think I may have had a couple in me when I typed that post :oops:

I have a 22 kilo bottle so it would be a bit hard for me to get it in my little 200L chesty along with the 2x 23L kegs. I think I will leave it out and just put a hole in the collar for the gas to come in.

Thanks for the reply TL, even if it was a bit cheeky :lol:
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Postby Trough Lolly » Friday Dec 21, 2007 1:26 pm

Huh?! :?

Whaddid I do?!

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Postby regan » Friday Dec 21, 2007 2:02 pm

pissed again kev?
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Postby Trough Lolly » Friday Dec 21, 2007 2:11 pm

A few here in the office kicked off this morning!!! :twisted:

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