Thinking of trying a new carbonation method

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Thinking of trying a new carbonation method

Postby Pommie » Tuesday Nov 20, 2007 11:24 am

Hi All

Currently when I'm kegging I use the "Ross Method" of force carbonation whenever I keg a beer. This beer then goes into storage under the house until I'm ready to drink it - fully carbed.

I'm now thnking of doing the following.
Put the beer into an empty keg
Purge with CO2
Store the beer until a space is available in the beer fridge
Whilst the beer is in the fridge chilling, attach a Carbonation Lid from Ross and let the beer carbonate over time.

Is this an improvement to my current approach, any problems or benefits with what I am thinking of doing and how long would it take to carbed to PSI 8 - my pouring pressure

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Postby Tipsy » Tuesday Nov 20, 2007 11:51 am

I carb all my beers at pouring pressure now (I don't use a carbonation lid)

They take between 1-2 weeks
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Postby lethaldog » Tuesday Nov 20, 2007 3:46 pm

Yeah depending on the temp of the beer, between 1-2 weeks as tipsy said :wink:
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Postby Pommie » Tuesday Nov 20, 2007 4:00 pm

Cheers Guys

I think 1-2 weeks is too long for me to wait, looks like i'll have to force carbonate
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Postby rwh » Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 8:44 am

Why don't you just chuck in some dex and let it carb naturally during your "Store the beer until a space is available in the beer fridge" step?
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Postby KEG » Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 9:12 am

i haven't tried that myself, but the reason i haven't is because i would expect a fair bit of yeast at the bottom - exactly where the beer-out tube is.
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Postby rwh » Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 9:36 am

I haven't done it either, but I hear it all comes out in the first glass, and from then on it's clear beer.
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Postby Chris » Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 9:38 am

Apparently you lose about 1 to 1 1/2 pints in yeasty beer, and the rest is fine.
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Postby Pommie » Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 9:38 am

prefer not to naturally carbonate as I tend to filter my beer
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Postby Ross » Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 8:19 pm

Pommie wrote:prefer not to naturally carbonate as I tend to filter my beer


What difference does that make? no different filtering a naturally carbonated beer against a force carbed one 8) .

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Postby KEG » Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 9:05 pm

you mean filtering it already carbonated?
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Postby Kevnlis » Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 10:10 pm

I think what Chris is trying to point out is that if you filter the beer before you prime and naturaly carbonate it you could be in trouble. Depending on how good your filtering is you could be left with little or no yeast to create the carbonation for you.
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Postby Ross » Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 10:20 pm

KEG wrote:you mean filtering it already carbonated?


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Postby KEG » Thursday Nov 22, 2007 6:46 am

ah cool. really didn't see the point in filtering, just to feed the yeast with priming sugar again and get sediment back.
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Postby Pommie » Thursday Nov 22, 2007 7:24 am

I filter before carbonation so I dont want to get the sediment back into the keg by naturally carbonating
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Postby lethaldog » Thursday Nov 22, 2007 2:42 pm

Kevnlis wrote:I think what Chris is trying to point out is that if you filter the beer before you prime and naturaly carbonate it you could be in trouble. Depending on how good your filtering is you could be left with little or no yeast to create the carbonation for you.


Filtering doesnt remove young yeast just the fat old dead buggers, no matter which way you look at it beer will always have yeast in it, it might just take a little longer to carb but will still get there :wink:
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Postby Kevnlis » Thursday Nov 22, 2007 2:50 pm

Which is why I said "little" or no yeast, it is possible to filter out all of the yeast, though not with a standard 1 micron beer filter which most home brewers would use.
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Postby lethaldog » Thursday Nov 22, 2007 2:57 pm

All i know is the last beer i made i did filter and put in bottles ( for a friend) after 2 weeks she is already carbed from what i can tell so didnt actually take any longer at all :wink:
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Postby Pommie » Thursday Nov 22, 2007 2:59 pm

Come on guys, back to my original query :lol:
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Postby drsmurto » Thursday Nov 22, 2007 3:01 pm

I have some 0.1 micron filters that i reckon would get rid of damn near all of the little buggers........
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