Caliente

[CrookedFingers]

Putting a full extract pale brew down right now and just threw in the caliente hops.
Has anyone brewed with these ? Thoughts.

All I know is they smell AWESOME !
More of a present pine smell than chinook or simcoe, also great stone fruit notes !

Looking forward to this one.


By the way, Sorry fellas, I neglected to search, so I'm not sure if there was already a current topic on these hops.

[Oliver]

Hey CF, are you still a fan of Caliente, having presumably now tasted the beer?

Oliver

[CrookedFingers]

Funny you post that today !
I have a stubby in to taste tonight !

Will update later.

[CrookedFingers]

Ok.
The caliente I used for buttering does have a nice bitterness, I don't remember the IBU's correctly but I think it is around 40.
I get some spicyness and a good bit of citrus up front.
The tastes are a little all over the shop because of my other flavour/aroma hop additions.
Simcoe at 15 & 5 impart city's and pine resin also.
I dry hopped with mosaic @ 5 days. It's a very fruity flavour, stone fruits. I get an aftertaste of apricot.

So my summary I guess is spicy citrus up front with a herbal flavour and stone fruits to finish.
Overall I am happy with this after two weeks, it will be nice to drink once it settles down and the flavours mellow.

[Oliver]

Thanks for the update, CF. You're not far off a description of Caliente from Yakima Valley Hops (where you can buy 56g of Caliente or Cascade for $US2.99 ):

The aroma has a little lemon zest and a hint of pine, but it is dominated by a very distinct stone fruit aroma. I got a really nice juicy aroma of fresh peach/nectarine/plum from this hop.

On the palate, the fruitiness is much more subdued. There are notes of peach and lemon, but it's fleeting. It almost reminded me of a flavored seltzer in that respect. As the beer warmed, I started getting a lot more earthy/woody notes coming out. On the flavor side, it seems like Fuggles, but with a bit of fruitiness.

[CrookedFingers]

Ha ! That's funny.
I acredited the citrus and spice to the caliente
I have used simcoe before, that's what I thought the pine was and I was never sure what the mosaic was going to do.
I have read about mosaic and heard about plum/stone fruits, I assume it was them.

Would I be thinking along the right lines if I thought that the new generation US hops would all be similar to the ones that come before as they are possibly related ?
Might have to dry hop with caliente someday.