Ingredients in a can

silkworm · Post by **silkworm** » Tuesday Sep 20, 2005 2:15 pm

Is there anyway to find out exactly what is in a kit? Or is that the secret to kill for?
What is the exact mix of ingredients in a Coopers Heritage Larger Can?
2 reasons
1.to save testing first before mucking around with the taste.
2.To learn more from the big guys.....

NTRabbit · Post by **NTRabbit** » Tuesday Sep 20, 2005 5:13 pm

I dunno, seems like the same thing as asking KFC what the recipe for their secret herbs and spices is.

Wimmig · Post by **Wimmig** » Tuesday Sep 20, 2005 7:59 pm

NTRabbit wrote:I dunno, seems like the same thing as asking KFC what the recipe for their secret herbs and spices is.

Well that one is now public domain, but as for the kits...who knows!

jayse · Post by **jayse** » Monday Sep 26, 2005 1:17 am

It really is as ntrabbit says, someone could tell you whats in the heritage lager can but would be excommunicated if they did.
All i can say is its malt and hops.

Gallows pole
Jayse

silkworm · Post by **silkworm** » Monday Sep 26, 2005 8:00 am

It would be nice to know what hops thay used at least.
Even if no quantities or methods were given we could then use the same hops for example if we wanted to modify. I recon after a while though, with more understanding of the different hops/malt flavours, someone could make a close guess. No? Like a chef tasting a soup could tell you what is in it...
Thanks for the feed back folks.....

Post by **Oliver** » Monday Sep 26, 2005 1:02 pm

It's my understanding that Cooper's uses Pride of Ringwood exclusively, even in their homebrew pilsner kits.

Oliver

silkworm · Post by **silkworm** » Monday Sep 26, 2005 2:21 pm

I'll have to give Pride of ringwood a go someday. There have been a few posts here in the past that warned never to use it. Why is this ? Is it just a very strong overpowering flavour? If so Coopers must us it sparingly...

thehipone · Post by **thehipone** » Monday Sep 26, 2005 7:24 pm

I'd be surprised if they didnt use PoR exclusively in their kits. Pretty much only the bittering acids survive the extract concentration, PoR are much cheaper and higher %AA than Saaz, especially if no Saaz character is going to make it through.

jayse · Post by **jayse** » Monday Sep 26, 2005 9:18 pm

You can put hop flavour into a can of extract, just add it when you put the extract in the can in the form of essential oil basically. Thats how its commonly done I beleive. The bitterness can be added in the same way.
Not saying if thats how coopers do it or not! I have been sworn to secrecy.
Chuck hahn has no problems making it public knowledge though that thats how they put the hop flavour in the malt shovel cans.

Jayse

Wassa · Post by **Wassa** » Tuesday Sep 27, 2005 7:53 am

Rabbit,

Using Fuggles will be interesting with the Toohey's Dark Ale.

From what I've been told Willamette is the aroma hop that Tooheys use in their Old beer. This could be wrong of cause, but I've used it and have been happy with the result.

NTRabbit · Post by **NTRabbit** » Tuesday Sep 27, 2005 3:14 pm

Wassa wrote:Rabbit,

Using Fuggles will be interesting with the Toohey's Dark Ale.

From what I've been told Willamette is the aroma hop that Tooheys use in their Old beer. This could be wrong of cause, but I've used it and have been happy with the result.

This reply seems like its in the wrong thread, but anyway... I cant ever recall having actually drunk Tooheys Old, so im not trying to emulate it too much - just trying to make a good Dark Ale

jayse · Post by **jayse** » Tuesday Sep 27, 2005 9:57 pm

As far as making a good dark ale goes fuggles is the number one choice of hop.
Not just my opinion but pretty much thats the standard hop for such beers both commercially and at home.

No quarter
Jayse

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wednesday Sep 28, 2005 1:47 pm

jayse wrote: Not saying if thats how coopers do it or not! I have been sworn to secrecy.

Big yourself up as usual Jayse.
Nice of you to bless this forum with your beer godly presence. I thought you were above this k&k bs?

Ramble On.

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Wednesday Sep 28, 2005 1:59 pm

Guest,

That's all a bit rich, don't you think, coming from somebody anonymous?

As for your opinion of K&K - you know how to make friends, don't you? We all started somewhere.

Tony

undercover1 · Post by **undercover1** » Wednesday Sep 28, 2005 2:18 pm

Let's not feed the troll, Tony.

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Wednesday Sep 28, 2005 2:38 pm

Tried not to, but just couldn't help myself.

Tony

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Thursday Sep 29, 2005 2:44 am

Speaking of Trolls, there is one under the bridge on my way to work it sees me leaving and then the bugger goes to my house and drinks my beer with Evo's pony.

Dogger

Antsvb · Post by **Antsvb** » Friday Sep 30, 2005 3:54 pm

DD,

Are you hiding Evo over there after he came looking for his pony?

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Saturday Oct 01, 2005 2:15 am

Well

He did say he was coming didn't he.

I am thinking he got off in Vancouver and is following the train tracks to London.

Dogger