Weird brew experience..... (to roll or not?)

MHD · Post by **MHD** » Sunday Jan 15, 2006 9:43 pm

Ok, My second brew which, in retrospect definately needed a secondary in tub ferment, or at the very minumum more time in the primary was bottled about a month ago....

I have been bitterly disapointed with this brew... having not been able to taste any honey on it...

Until tonight... now this was the third beer for the night (so this could have been a factor) but I cracked one open after (the beer) being disturbed (so it was very cloudy) and YUM... yep there was the very nice honey.... It was a bit warm to.... I took a temp reading when it was nearly finished so it was a bit high but I read 18 degrees C...

So do you ever find that your beers benefit from rolling the sediment into suspension in the beer?? The one bad thing I will say about this particular glass is that it has a slightly "soapy" aroma...

Chewie · Post by **Chewie** » Monday Jan 16, 2006 5:33 pm

I know its considered a good thing to role a coopers pale ale to get it cloudy before drinking. however ive never compared a roled one against a normal one, so I cant really say.

db · Post by db » Monday Jan 16, 2006 6:13 pm

MHD, one of my honey beers (a darkish ale with 500g of leatherwood honey) was definately better with the sediment.. others not so good. imo it depends on the beer.. i try each beer with & without & see how they taste

Simo · Post by **Simo** » Monday Jan 16, 2006 8:08 pm

my honey pale ale is definantly better with a bit of sediment. I generally give it a quick inversion as I don't want the entire yeast-cake floating around but it needs a bit of it in there to give it a nice rounded flavour.

anti-fsck · Post by **anti-fsck** » Monday Jan 16, 2006 8:10 pm

Fuggles?!? In an amber ale?!?

MHD · Post by **MHD** » Monday Jan 16, 2006 8:37 pm

I know....

Antsvb · Post by **Antsvb** » Tuesday Jan 17, 2006 12:54 pm

Great thread MHD.

This is a topic a few of us have been pondering lately. I have always been careful not to mix homebrews. All my longnecks are poured in one go into a jug for this reason. I even never took Homebrews to any other locations, to avoid shaking them up.

It was only recently I reaslised this is a bit hypocritical, to how most of us enjoys Coopers and other bottle conditioned brews. After this, I have tried mixing a few bottles here and there.

Would love to know anyone's thoughts on the subject, even though I realise there isn't going to be a set rule on the subject. Going to come down to individual brews and individual tastes I supose.

Cheeno · Post by **Cheeno** » Tuesday Jan 17, 2006 4:00 pm

Working as a barman one night in the busy bar of a busy restaurant a small-framed fellow with glasses on appeared through the throng who seemed a bit odd. Nothing new; it was a hot night in St. Kilda in the late 80's. I was about to rip the top off the stubby of coopers he had just ordered when he fixed me with a stare and said a bottle of coopers MUST be rolled ON ITS SIDE at least a FULL ROTATION for 5 SECONDS. I told him I didn't have 5 seconds people were thirsty...he turned at once and left.

JaCk_SpArRoW · Post by **JaCk_SpArRoW** » Tuesday Jan 17, 2006 4:02 pm

Cheeno wrote:Working as a barman one night in the busy bar of a busy restaurant a small-framed fellow with glasses on appeared through the throng who seemed a bit odd. Nothing new; it was a hot night in St. Kilda in the late 80's. I was about to rip the top off the stubby of coopers he had just ordered when he fixed me with a stare and said a bottle of coopers MUST be rolled ON ITS SIDE at least a FULL ROTATION for 5 SECONDS. I told him I didn't have 5 seconds people were thirsty...he turned at once and left.

Mewshew · Post by **Mewshew** » Tuesday Jan 17, 2006 4:19 pm

Hmm. I've got a honey ale that didn't turn out as I had hoped. I'll try rolling the next one.

Cheers,

- Jim

yardglass · Post by **yardglass** » Tuesday Jan 17, 2006 7:02 pm

Cheeno wrote:Working as a barman one night in the busy bar of a busy restaurant a small-framed fellow with glasses on appeared through the throng who seemed a bit odd. Nothing new; it was a hot night in St. Kilda in the late 80's. I was about to rip the top off the stubby of coopers he had just ordered when he fixed me with a stare and said a bottle of coopers MUST be rolled ON ITS SIDE at least a FULL ROTATION for 5 SECONDS. I told him I didn't have 5 seconds people were thirsty...he turned at once and left.

it was probably undercover1.

Punter · Post by **Punter** » Wednesday Jan 18, 2006 6:46 am

I saw a show on SBS or ABC a couple of weeks ago with Tim Cooper (from Coopers) and some other tosser travelling around all the old outback pubs. Every pub they were in they drank the pale ale, the barwench layed the bottle on its side and rolled it a full armslength one way and then back before serving. Havn't tried it myself as yet, just may tonight.

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Wednesday Jan 18, 2006 8:01 am

I will try that when I have mine.

Does the same happen for the Sparkling

And what the hell is Tim doing roaring around on a crop tour for?

Doesn't he have a Brewery to save?

Dogger

Punter · Post by **Punter** » Wednesday Jan 18, 2006 8:27 am

Dogger, didn't see them drink the Sparkling at all, so couldn't say. I don't really know what the point of the show was (maybe a coopers promo?) Just him and some other bloke drinking with old leather faced men in big hats. He sure does have a fight on his hands for his company.
This from the Coopers site:
16 January 2006
Coopers Brewery's share buy-back has closed with just 4.26% of outstanding shares being offered to the company.
When the offer period for this current share buy-back closed last week, 57,637 shares, valued at just under $15 million at the buyback price of $260 per share, had been put up for sale.

MHD · Post by **MHD** » Wednesday Jan 18, 2006 11:17 am

If some one refused to roll my coopers I too would walk out!

Rubber.Piggy · Post by **Rubber.Piggy** » Wednesday Jan 18, 2006 12:56 pm

so when I'm lucky enough to get coopers PA on tap shoulde I be demanding that the keg be rolled first??