Malt Shovel

[rwh]

Sounds good, apart from the 400g corn syrup.

[damonpeyo]

Yeah I know rwh

[Cortez The Killer]

Malt Shovels were on special at Big W so i grabbed 4 tins yesterday

2 x Pale Ales
2 x Oatmeal Stouts

Now that I've read the reviews and opinions I'm a little wary.

Any thoughts about what to do with these kits? I've got Fuggles, Cascade and a little POR at my disposal, LDME, Dex, Chocolate Malt, Crystal, Carapils, Maltodextrin.

I'll be doing them as 2 kit batches

If I was going to have a stab at it I'd go

2 x Pale Ale Tins
100g Crystal
20g Cascade - 30 mins
10g Fuggles - Flameout
21 Litres

2 x Oatmeal Stout Tins
500g LDME
50g Chocolate Malt
100g Carapils
12g POR - 60mins (just to use it up and bitter the beer up)
15g Cascade - 30mins
10g Fuggles - 5mins
20 Litres

Comments, thoughts?

I've gotta be careful when I go shopping - I end up impulse buying and not thinking about what I'm doing. I also purchased 2 x Bavarian Lager Tins + 1 x Canadian Blonde, on top the Coopers Bitter Tin and Coopers Mexican Cerveza Tin I already had at home. I'm gonna be busy!

Cheers

Edit: Re-thought hop schedule

[Biggles]

Ive just bottled a 21 lt batch of MSPA.
The fermeter had a really hoppy almost sour smell after emptying it. A heck of a lot stronger smell than the smell after racking off my TCB WetPack PA yesterday. I hope it wasnt infected or ? ?

I bulk primed with LDM at 10gr per litre.

I wouldn't worry about it, I often get quite a strong hops smell out of my fermenters, even after they've been in the cupboard for a few weeks and then sanitised with Idophor. If you have an infection there's nothing you can do about it now, just bottle and see how it is in a few weeks.

That's a good bulk prime level for LDME. In the high carbonation range, just how I like it.

Well Ive got to tell you guys this is a dud brew for me so far. Next to nil carbonation after 1 month 9 days in the bottle. A sweet malty taste and generally unimpressive. I can not drink bad beer so have tipped out the bottle I opened. The others can stay away for another few months I think before I try any more.
Going back through my notes, I can see is the yeast was pitched at 28C, the whole lot cooled to around 22-24 (for most of the ferment) afer a few hours. Fermenting stopped after 4 days and due to time constraints it was day 8 before it got bottled. And as noted in my quote of myself (to save people re-reading an old thread ) the funky smell in fermenter after bottling. Im going to revise my description of the smell to a smell like rotten fruit on a hot day.

[lethaldog]

Ouch not good m8!!

I only use the malt shovel 2 row lager for my becks and its always been fantastic but never tried it for anything else

[Eureka]

You'll need to ferment the MS brew at a lower temperature too.

You can add stuff like what Cortez suggested but the 2 row lager is pretty good just brewed on its own. Very smooth....

[Boonie]

You'll need to ferment the MS brew at a lower temperature too.

You can add stuff like what Cortez suggested but the 2 row lager is pretty good just brewed on its own. Very smooth....

I have to do a backflip on my opinion of this beer.

At first, it tasted like a strong wine and was undrinkable ......had 2 last night and they were 1000% better.

I put 20g of Amarillo in at rack as the taste out of the keg was a little sour .

Cheers

Boonie

[lucifuge]

I've had the following Malt Shovel's:

Nut Brown
Deep Roast Ale
Oatmeal Stout
Two Row Lager

The 1st two are my favourite's. Really smooth and full bodied. I keep brewing them, but guess what !!!!!!
.........they're being discontinued...the b@st@rds!!!

With the Oatmeal Stout, i added a large freddo frog (shaved down to fine chocolate) plus 2x double shot espresso's. whoa baby! beautiful!

[Boonie]

I've had the following Malt Shovel's:

Nut Brown
Deep Roast Ale
Oatmeal Stout
Two Row Lager

The 1st two are my favourite's. Really smooth and full bodied. I keep brewing them, but guess what !!!!!!
.........they're being discontinued...the b@st@rds!!!

With the Oatmeal Stout, i added a large freddo frog (shaved down to fine chocolate) plus 2x double shot espresso's. whoa baby! beautiful!

Could you taste the chocolate? I imagine you could taste the Coffee in the smaller batch size.

Cheers

Boonie

[lucifuge]

Not directly, as it's all so blended now.... differentiating between specific flavours is just too hard. It has a sort of full-bodied flavour with a burnt syrup-like quality to it. It's quite unusual. It's almost like a dessert beer!

[Aussie Claret]

You'll need to ferment the MS brew at a lower temperature too.

You can add stuff like what Cortez suggested but the 2 row lager is pretty good just brewed on its own. Very smooth....

I have to do a backflip on my opinion of this beer.

At first, it tasted like a strong wine and was undrinkable ......had 2 last night and they were 1000% better.

I put 20g of Amarillo in at rack as the taste out of the keg was a little sour .

Cheers

Boonie

Boonie,
If you had a strong wine like taste you may have fermented too hot as I'm sure has been said, which can create fusel alcohols, also if the beer tasted a little sour you may have some kind of infection. Sour doesn't sound quite right to me.

When I was making K&K I made the MS lager and Pale Ale and was thoroughly under whelmed by both, there are far superior kits around such as Morgans Blue Moutain Lager.

Cheers
AC

[Boonie]

Boonie,
If you had a strong wine like taste you may have fermented too hot as I'm sure has been said, which can create fusel alcohols, also if the beer tasted a little sour you may have some kind of infection. Sour doesn't sound quite right to me.

When I was making K&K I made the MS lager and Pale Ale and was thoroughly under whelmed by both, there are far superior kits around such as Morgans Blue Moutain Lager.

Cheers
AC

Totally agree with the Blue Mountains Kit being superior.

Just checked my notes, you must be Psychic, had small infection of white scum (around rim) in Fermenter after 1 week .

I even forgot about that until I checked my Brew notes. I rarely get an infection since I stopped using the Napisan

Cheers AC

Boonie

[mikey]

Boiling water (around 1 litre in the fermenter0 is as far as I go these days when it comes to sanitising. Can't see the point in doing anything else.

[Pale_Ale]

I use hot water for the fermenter too, maybe a little pink powder for the airlock, implements and storage jars etc. Haven't had a problem as yet, touch wood

[SpillsMostOfIt]

I rinse/scrub my fermenters in water, then soak them overnight in sodium percarbonate, then rinse (in boiled water), then spray them with Iodophor, then rinse (boiled water) again. I'm thinking of getting some neopink to alternate with the percarbonate to avoid breeding super-bacteria.

Ten points to whoever guesses my star sign...

[rwh]

Virgo?

[Pale_Ale]

Virgo and a female?

[SpillsMostOfIt]

Virgo?

[SpillsMostOfIt]

Virgo and a female?

I have no response to that, except... No.

[Noodles]

Virgo and a female?

LMFAO