irish moss

sidman · Post by **sidman** » Wednesday Aug 01, 2007 10:17 pm

just started kegging ,so want my beer to clear in the fermenter a bit quicker but dont want to rack, is irish moss any good ,or should i use another type of finnings .

DarkFaerytale · Post by **DarkFaerytale** » Thursday Aug 02, 2007 8:34 am

irish moss is really good but it's added to the boil to aid in making the break clump together and fall to the bottom of the pot please don't add it to the fermenter

i'd suggest you try polyclar which is what i use, just add it to your brew with 250ml of warm water 3-7 days befor you bottle/keg, does a really fantastic job, especially cleaning up the chill haze from no chill

http://craftbrewer.com.au/index.php?pag ... &Itemid=29

-Phill

Edit: i would also add that racking really does make a major difference when brewing, especially so you can mature your beer, altho that might not be that big a problem for a kegger as you can age in the keg.... bastard

Aussie Claret · Post by **Aussie Claret** » Thursday Aug 02, 2007 9:21 am

Sidman you don't say if you are a K&K or AG brewer.

Before we start to recommend what you should use to clear the beer we need to determine why the beer isn't clear in the first place.

If you have chill haze then the choice is, Polyclar should only be used to clear up chill haze, usually only found in AG beers. And it is recommended that the treated beer is filtered. To see if you have chill haze slightly warm a glass of beer, if it clears then you've got chill haze, if it doesn't clear then don't bother with Polyclar.

If you have yeast in suspension, you could treat with finings such as isinglass or gelatin, or cold condition which will assist in making the yeast drop out of suspension, or you could simply filter.

As has been said don't use irish moss in the fermenter as darkfaerytale is correct.

It simply sounds like you want the beer to clear faster in the fermenter, so i would CC first and go from there. Bear in mind the type of yeast you use will determine the speed at which the beer will clear, some yeasts such as wheat yeasts tend to be poor floculators as such may never clear without additional treatments suggested.

AC

DarkFaerytale · Post by **DarkFaerytale** » Thursday Aug 02, 2007 10:30 am

thanks for clearing that up AC

-Phill

gibbocore · Post by **gibbocore** » Thursday Aug 02, 2007 10:34 am

do many of you fellas use filters? I'm considering the purchase from ross.

Aussie Claret · Post by **Aussie Claret** » Thursday Aug 02, 2007 10:47 am

gibbocore wrote:do many of you fellas use filters? I'm considering the purchase from ross.

Yes, I do; drinking slightly cloudy beer isn't a problem for me but when you have guests there is nothing more rewarding to see them drinking your bueatifully bright crystal clear beer and their comments on how good it is!

AC

gibbocore · Post by **gibbocore** » Thursday Aug 02, 2007 11:08 am

Aussie Claret wrote:
gibbocore wrote:do many of you fellas use filters? I'm considering the purchase from ross.
Yes, I do; drinking slightly cloudy beer isn't a problem for me but when you have guests there is nothing more rewarding to see them drinking your bueatifully bright crystal clear beer and their comments on how good it is!

AC

cool, i think i'll invest!

OldBugman · Post by **OldBugman** » Thursday Aug 02, 2007 5:06 pm

Aussie Claret wrote:
gibbocore wrote:do many of you fellas use filters? I'm considering the purchase from ross.
Yes, I do; drinking slightly cloudy beer isn't a problem for me but when you have guests there is nothing more rewarding to see them drinking your bueatifully bright crystal clear beer and their comments on how good it is!

AC

Ditto

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Friday Aug 03, 2007 8:03 am

I'm still deciding on a filter. Pros and cons. Hmmm.

gibbocore · Post by **gibbocore** » Friday Aug 03, 2007 10:29 am

i put my order in for one of ross' yesterday, clean beer for me on monday. My bright ale/golden ale seudo clone will be the guinea pig. Will post photo's of the finished product!

James L · Post by **James L** » Friday Aug 03, 2007 5:04 pm

can you filter and still bottle? or is filtering just for kegging?

just curious...

Aussie Claret · Post by **Aussie Claret** » Sunday Aug 05, 2007 9:44 am

Yes you can filter even when bottling, the use of a 1 micron absolute filter whilst it will remove alot of the yeast some will pass through, sufficient for bottle conditioning; it may take a little longer to gas up thats all.
AC

morgs · Post by **morgs** » Sunday Aug 05, 2007 3:36 pm

Aussie Claret wrote:Yes you can filter even when bottling, the use of a 1 micron absolute filter whilst it will remove alot of the yeast some will pass through, sufficient for bottle conditioning; it may take a little longer to gas up thats all.
AC

Doesn't this require co2 to do this? or can filtering be achieved without co2 without oxidising?

Aussie Claret · Post by **Aussie Claret** » Monday Aug 06, 2007 9:54 am

You need CO2 to force the beer through the filter and it would be easier to filter from keg to keg or keg to other container, but to answer the question that was originally posted there would be sufficient yeast left in the after filtered beer to bottle condition if you so wanted.
AC