Coopers European Style Lagar

raccoon · Post by **raccoon** » Monday Dec 31, 2007 4:32 am

Hi All

Came across a new coopers brew at the supermarket European style lagar,has anyone brewed this and how did it turn out,

cheers

rwh · Post by **rwh** » Monday Dec 31, 2007 8:52 am

I suspect it's a renamed Bavarian Lager; all I have to support this theory is that the Bavarian Lager was phased out at the same time as the European Lager was introduced. Perhaps a naming dispute similar to the Champagne region of France insisting that only spakling white wine made there can be called Champagne?

KEG · Post by **KEG** » Monday Dec 31, 2007 11:10 am

all i know is it worked for me - i picked up 3 'discontinued' cans of bavarian lager for $6.50 ea

Trough Lolly · Post by **Trough Lolly** » Monday Dec 31, 2007 8:56 pm

Nice buy Chris - it's my favourite kit based lager going around - it's so flexible when you use it in a partial mash...from North German Pils to a dark and brooding dunkel weizenbock you can do anything with that kit.

Cheers,
TL

KEG · Post by **KEG** » Tuesday Jan 01, 2008 12:24 am

hmm... good to know

question is - what decent brews can you make using ale yeast with that can? it's waaaay too hot here for lagers, and i don't have a brew fridge yet.

Trough Lolly · Post by **Trough Lolly** » Tuesday Jan 01, 2008 8:42 am

This kit makes a pretty decent amber ale. If you want to steep some caramunich and a small amount of choc malt (60g max), you can do a reasonable fat tire clone... From memory I steeped 300g of caramunich I, 60g of choc malt in 4L sparged with 1-2L and boiled with Willamette to give me 16 IBU's.

I'd save the lager yeast for another day and use a sachet of ale kit yeast, or preferably, grab some US-05 dry yeast and use that for the ale ferment.

Once you get the temperature under control, repeat the same recipe with W34/70 and Hallertau instead of Willamette and you'll end up with a nice oktoberfest beer by simply using a different hop and yeast strain.

Cheers,
TL

KEG · Post by **KEG** » Tuesday Jan 01, 2008 9:42 am

thanks heaps for that, much appreciated. i've been wanting to do an oktoberfest beer, will get to that when the weather's a bit more clement.

now for the amber ale - while i have plenty of US-05 around, i don't have any Willamette. The only american hops i have are Warrior, Columbus and Simcoe. time to improvise

Trough Lolly · Post by **Trough Lolly** » Tuesday Jan 01, 2008 10:18 am

KEG wrote:...now for the amber ale - while i have plenty of US-05 around, i don't have any Willamette. The only american hops i have are Warrior, Columbus and Simcoe. time to improvise

Willamette is a US variant of Fuggles - with the three hops you listed, I'd use Columbus in the mini boil.

Cheers,
TL

Kevnlis · Post by **Kevnlis** » Tuesday Jan 01, 2008 12:21 pm

I would go Columbus for the bittering as well, but go with Simcoe for flavour/aroma additions.