Rog-rau Hybrid Ale

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Bizier
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Rog-rau Hybrid Ale

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Here is my recipe so far for a feeling-out hybrid german ale for this afternoon/evening

Mash 60 mins:
250 Smoked
500 caramel rye
500 MO
500 carapils
100 carafa 1
60 black patent

60 mins boil

2kg dry light extract

15 hersbruker @ 30
15 hersbruker @ 15

Nottingham, would prefer 1007, but do not have on hand
Ferment around 16 deg C

19L Batch

I realise that there are probably a million rules being broken here, but does anything stick out as being plainly wrong?

Any thoughts appreciated
Dan
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Re: Rog-rau Hybrid Ale

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I may be wrong, but there seems to be a total of 1.1 kg of crystal malts in there.
That's great if you have a really sweet tooth, but for me, I think it's too much, and needs scaling back by at least half.
Nothing wrong with the caramel rye, carapils, and carafa 1 in themselves, and the relative proportions.
To compensate, I'd up the light dry extract by ½ kg.
Beersmith then gives me an estimated OG of 1052, and colour of 29.3 EBC.
The MO and black patent will need mashing, not just steeping.
I think you might have underdone the hopping. Assuming the Hersbrucker is 4%AA, your proposed additions will give you only 8.1 IBUs. You need to add some 60 minutes bittering hops to give you another 20 IBUs.
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Re: Rog-rau Hybrid Ale

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black patent doesnt need mashing. Steeping is fine. But the MO definately needs a mash.
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Re: Rog-rau Hybrid Ale

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I figured that I'd mash the lot, hoping that enzymes will break some residual starches floating around in the crystal.. I may be wrong in this, as I understand that they are already "mashed".

I mashed it as a double boiler setup with a fair bit of water in my HUGE brewpot and a 4-5L pot inside with both lids on. This really worked a treat.

The brew has a funny smell about it I have never experienced. It smells kind of similar to a hint of 'varnish'... and to be truthful, I did not taste the starter :oops: I am praying to Mr Arnou that the new smell is just due to unfamilliar ingredients, and that all will be sweet (even after dropping the carapils :roll: ).
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Re: Rog-rau Hybrid Ale

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I bottled this today, and tasted a few mouthfuls of the secondary <longneck trubby stuff (expelled from mouth though :wink: ). It was really amazing, sweet, but tart, reasonably balanced in bitterness thanks to the last minute EKG. I am really eager to try this from the bottle in a month or so.
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