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Ive bought a bottle of Hoegaarden White in an attempt to cultivate the yeast in it for my own Wit. The guide on this website says to use a couple tablespoons of dry malt, but would it be roughly the same to use a couple tablespoons of dextrose and add a 1/2 a teaspoon of yeast nutrient?
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Post by Dogger Dan »

NT,

That seems like a lot of yeast neutrient. Isn't a tsp per gallon or is a tsp per 5 gallons. Can't remember right now. If its a tsp per gallon you should be using about 1/4 tsp per litre.

As far as it working..........let me know when you get there

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It seems to be working just fine - its been a couple of days, and just this afternoon my makeshift balloon airlock has begun to slowly inflate and the flocculated yeast is easily visible at the top of the liquid. If the activity overwhelms the balloon im going to drill out a cap, fit it with a bung and use an ordinary airlock. I used 500ml boiled water, 4 tbsp pf dextrose, 1/4 tsp of the nutrient and about the last 15mm of the Hoegaarden bottle carefully poured to maximise the left behind sediment, plus a small quick rinse to get at the yeast glued to the bottom of the bottle.

About the orange flavour - I have a bottle of Triple Sec here i can substitute for the Orange zest to save the beers head, anyone have an informed guess as to how much i should use?

Beyond that, im going with

Coopers Brewmaster Selection Wheat
Coopers 1.5kg Wheat LME
1kg torrefied wheat steeped
15g ground coriander seed
12g Tettnanger finishing hop bag
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> About the orange flavour - I have a bottle of Triple Sec here i can substitute for the Orange zest to save the beers head, anyone have an informed guess as to how much i should use?

I used a half a small bottle (can check size tonight, but I suspect around 50ml bottle) of triple sec essence purchased from my hbs as the curacao orange flavouring in one of my brews. Orange was noticeable in the final product, but only just. This would imply you should use between 1/2 and the full bottle of Triple Sec (but I am not sure what that immediate increase in the alc % would do to your yeast).
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I picked up one of those Triple Sec essence bottles (for $8.50 ouch :? ) since ive only got about 1/5th of a bottle of real Triple Sec left. Will use half of it in the brew, just desperately awaiting the postal arrival of my Coopers Wheat beer and Wheat malt extract.
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Post by Hrundi V Bakshi »

NTRabbit wrote: Coopers Brewmaster Selection Wheat
Coopers 1.5kg Wheat LME
1kg torrefied wheat steeped
15g ground coriander seed
12g Tettnanger finishing hop bag
Torrefied wheat must be mashed, it must. It contains no enzyme for the conversion of its starches into sugars. It cannot be treated like crystal - indeed not. Add one kilo of a pale base malt letting it to share the enzymes with the wheat. Just steeping this will simply soak the starches out of the grain giving you not wort but porridge, my friend.
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Hrundi V Bakshi wrote:
NTRabbit wrote: Coopers Brewmaster Selection Wheat
Coopers 1.5kg Wheat LME
1kg torrefied wheat steeped
15g ground coriander seed
12g Tettnanger finishing hop bag
Torrefied wheat must be mashed, it must. It contains no enzyme for the conversion of its starches into sugars. It cannot be treated like crystal - indeed not. Add one kilo of a pale base malt letting it to share the enzymes with the wheat. Just steeping this will simply soak the starches out of the grain giving you not wort but porridge, my friend.
The Grain and Grape website seems to think differently, and im going to go with them. I might be wrong, but the purpose of the Torrefied wheat is to add the characteristic cloudiness of a belgian white beer. Its not adding to the fermentables, and wont add sweetness to overhwlem the hops in the base malt.
Mini mash - 1000gms Torrefied Wheat
Put 3 litres of cold water in a saucepan and add grains and heat up VERY SLOWLY (over a 25 to 30 minute period) until just short of boiling. Strain the liquid and put into a saucepan for the boil, discard the grain residue.
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Post by Oliver »

Hrundi,

Nice to have you back. It's been a while!

Oliver
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