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Posted: Monday Aug 21, 2006 4:33 pm
by rwh
Cat wrote:I'm guestimating that the lighter honeys are better for lighter beers, and the darker ones for the darker beers.
Just don't use Eucalyptus honey unless you'd like the taste of Eucalyptus oil overpowering everything else.

Posted: Monday Aug 21, 2006 4:55 pm
by melbourne man
how do you know if it is eucalyptus. is yellow box this type and what are the best types that are available from the supermarket.

Posted: Monday Aug 21, 2006 5:03 pm
by Cat
It usually says if it's eucalyptus, or if it's named after a type of eucalyptus tree.

What honey is considered good depends on your own personal taste. I've heard of people using the normal generic supermarket stuff and having great results from those too.

Posted: Monday Aug 21, 2006 5:17 pm
by melbourne man
If you don't get your honey from the supermarket, then where do you get it from? Is yellow box a type of eucalyptus tree?

Posted: Monday Aug 21, 2006 7:21 pm
by halminator
melbourne man wrote:If you don't get your honey from the supermarket, then where do you get it from? Is yellow box a type of eucalyptus tree?
Deli, Fruit & Veg shops, Health Food shops, etc.
I made a brew from virtually the same ingredients as Cat except used Yellow Box as I couldn't find Clover honey and it tastes great. I've only cracked one bottle so far but I'm fairly confident that it's going to be a standard in my household.

Posted: Monday Aug 21, 2006 8:32 pm
by drtom
Yellow Box is a kind of eucalyptus, but obviously not a particularly strong one. I've used it in beer, and it's been great.

I usually buy honey either from the local Italian grocer (Cozzella Bros), or from the Vic Market.

I have friends who swear by organic honey, but I've not tried it myself.

cheers,
Tom

Posted: Monday Aug 21, 2006 11:00 pm
by rwh
Yeah Yellow Box is fine. It is a kind of eucalyptus, but not a strong one. The main one not to use is Red Gum.

Posted: Tuesday Aug 22, 2006 2:26 pm
by Cat
I think Iron Bark is a eucalypt too (it sounds like one!) but I can't be entirely sure

Posted: Tuesday Aug 22, 2006 4:11 pm
by drtom
Iron Bark is certainly a eucalyptus, and from memory, the honey is significantly stronger in flavour, so I'd advise against it.

Greg Malouf, the chef and food writer, in Arabesque, advises that for your toast, a strongly flavoured honey is great, but for cooking, the more generic varieties of honey tend to be better - lending a general honey flavour without being overewhelming. Now, I know brewing is a different kettle of fish, um, malt, but I suspect the same applies, unless you want the specific character of a particular variety. For example, you might do okay using a small quantity of an orange blossom honey in a Belgian styled beer.

Can you imagine beer made with leatherwood honey? :-)

T.

Posted: Tuesday Aug 22, 2006 7:45 pm
by gregb
drtom wrote:...
Can you imagine beer made with leatherwood honey? :-)

T.
Yup. Absolutley delicious in a dark ale.

Cheers,
Greg

Posted: Tuesday Aug 22, 2006 7:51 pm
by Boonie
gregb wrote:
drtom wrote:...
Can you imagine beer made with leatherwood honey? :-)

T.
Yup. Absolutley delicious in a dark ale.

Cheers,
Greg
Anyone tried Capilano Premium Blend in their brews?

I put Honey (Cheap stuff) in bottles when I first started HB with 5 grams of honey and a little bit of sugar about 3 grams. Yep that's right, straight in the bottle. DO NOT DO THIS. The head was enormous and tasted like sh**.....FYI

Posted: Saturday Sep 02, 2006 2:38 pm
by possessed_haemorrhage
Greetings,

I'm a newcomer and am trying a honey wheat beer also. I was at the supermarket trying to find a non eucalypt honey and none of them said anything about eucalypt on them. I had my girlfriend googling different brands while I was on the phone to her haha.

I ended up getting "Manuka blend honey" because no eucalypt results came up. Does anyone know if this is ok to use? I wanted to start it today after I finish bottling my first brew.

I plan on using:
Muntons Connoissuers Range Wheat Beer
500g Dextrose
500g Wheat Malt
Not sure how much honey to use, the guy at my local HBS said to use 500g, but from reading here, it may be best to use about 300 - 400?

Cheers,
Stephen

Posted: Saturday Sep 02, 2006 2:46 pm
by lethaldog
I dont know much about the style of honey that manuka is but i know its mainly used medicinaly, not sure how it will brew, id be more inclined to go a yellowbox which is available in your supermarket. In saying that you never know unless you try but ive just never heard of anyone who has used it :lol: :lol:

Posted: Saturday Sep 02, 2006 2:55 pm
by possessed_haemorrhage
Maybe it will repair my liver while I drink it :lol:

Well, I can't go out and get more honey today now because I've already started drinking. Damnit! haha.

Posted: Saturday Sep 02, 2006 3:09 pm
by lethaldog
:lol: :lol: You can only hope so :lol: :lol:

Just use it and see how it goes, will probably be ok, you never no maybe you will find a new taste sensation, oh and on the liver thing, if it works let me know will ya and ill use it in my next brew :lol: :lol:

Posted: Saturday Sep 02, 2006 5:59 pm
by possessed_haemorrhage
Okay well it's all underway now. I only added about 250g of the honey just incase it sucks haha. The kitchen floor is soaked, and I have many burns from boiling water, but it's nothing beer can't fix. Maybe I should do this again while sober. Maybe the Manuka will help the burns :lol:

Lethal: I'll let you know about the liver haha

Posted: Monday Sep 04, 2006 9:39 pm
by melbourne man
is it true a wheat beer should be drunk young to enhance the esters?

Re: Wheat Beer recipe using honey

Posted: Tuesday Sep 05, 2006 12:57 pm
by davekate
Sathias wrote:
Muntons Connoisseur Wheat Beer
1kg Dried Wheat Malt
250gm Orange Blossom Honey
teabag of Saaz hops in the final minute

poured into the fermenter (with teabag) made up to 23L

Using Safwheat as the yeast
Hey Sathias, how long did you boil this lot for?

Cheers

Posted: Tuesday Sep 05, 2006 1:43 pm
by Sathias
Around 20 minutes from memory, and put the hops in with 10 minutes to go rather than 1 minute.

Now that it has been in the bottle for a while and I have had a few, I'd say this has been one of my more successful brews. The only thing I would change is maybe add more hops.

Posted: Tuesday Sep 05, 2006 1:55 pm
by Timmsy
This is the last one i made and the 1st with honey. I got the recepie from the Coopers site

1.7kg can of Coopers Canadian Blonde
1kg Brew Enhancer 1
325 grms Strawberry Clover Honey

I searched every where for this honey only to find the company that made it for Coopers dont do it no more so been in Adelaide i rung up "The Honey Shop" in the central markets and said its to early in the season for that honey so recomended to use Lucerne. So its ready to bottle and will will let u no when its ready to drink