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Posted: Thursday Mar 15, 2007 12:55 pm
by dragonphoenix73
rwh wrote:Chris' all-juice cider
18L fresh pressed apple juice 1.5kg dextrose 500g LME 125g lactose 3 large, cored and peeled granny smiths, cut up and put in a stocking. 2 cinnamon sticks a few pieces of ginger juice of half a lemon For a lighter body in the cider, leave out the malt. It is beautiful with it though.
Hey rwh - do you remember what variety of apples you used? Could a juicer work instead of an apple press?
Which LME would you recommend?
cheers!
Posted: Thursday Mar 15, 2007 2:06 pm
by rwh
Not my recipe mate, just one I copied from somewhere, probably this forum actually... perhaps ask Chris.
Posted: Thursday Mar 15, 2007 2:08 pm
by Pale_Ale
It says it right there, granny smith apples!
LME you can use any brand, Coopers is easy to get hold of and as good as any.
Posted: Thursday Mar 15, 2007 2:21 pm
by rwh
The granny smiths are the whole apples. I don't think that would be the best variety to use for the juice though.
Posted: Thursday Mar 15, 2007 3:18 pm
by drsmurto
You really need a mix of eating and cooking apples, half and half.
Did a few trials a few weeks back using just royal galas. Treated the juice with campden tablet (1 per 5L) for 24hours to kill wild yeasts. Pitched yeast. Used an old ale yeast (cant remember brand) and tasted pretty rank. The experiment i did minus the campden and allowing the wild yeasts to do their thing was better but still not great.
When i do this experiment again i will filter the juice after extracting to get rid of the froth/crap you get when juicing. I would also ferment at lower temps, <18 but if you can and this depends on yeast type, in the 12-14 range.
Keep us informed, am keen to make my own cider from scratch.
Cheers
DrSmurto
Posted: Sunday Mar 25, 2007 5:59 pm
by Rysa
Anyone know which apple juice has no preservatives?
Supermarket job or would i have to get it from elsewhere?
Posted: Sunday Mar 25, 2007 6:13 pm
by Pale_Ale
As far as I know they sell preservative free juice at the supermarket. Such juices can be used with Oz-Tops so I figure they can be used in beer.
Posted: Sunday Mar 25, 2007 6:16 pm
by Rysa
Cheers Pale. I don't drink the stuff so wasn't too sure.
Made one cider and the lovely wife said it's not all bad just a bit watery so the next one i'm going to put in apples and juice.
Wasn't sure on what juice though.
Posted: Sunday Mar 25, 2007 8:33 pm
by drtom
Hi
2 things I've learned about cider:
1. The preservative in Homebrand apple juce from Safeway is sodium metabisulphite, which of course degrades once its in solution, so this apple juice is fine for brewing.
2. Time helps. Just drank a glass of cider (brigalow kit + dex I think), that's been in the bottle for about 9-10 months. Crisp, dry, tasty.
cheers,
T.