Dopplebock from kit base

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Kevnlis wrote:Right now I need to know how to rack this brew. I have never heard of racking before but have done a fair bit of reading around the forums and still don't fully understand what it is I should do, or how, or when. Is it the same with all brews because it seems for a lager it is more important?

Thanks in advance guys!
A lager should be ok at 8C but it's a bit on the cool side so make sure you have a decent starter of lager yeast to do the work at that temp. I tend to keep my lagers fermenting around 10-11C. At 8C it should be fine but may take more than 2 weeks to finish off in primary....before racking.

Racking is a term brewers use to lift the fermented wort (beer) off the yeast cake in the primary / first fermenter. Once the beer is nearly or fully finished off in primary, some brewers like to transfer / rack the beer to a secondary vessel/fermenter/keg to bulk condition. The beer develops and improves more quickly in bulk rather than in smaller vessels such as bottles so if you can hang on for another couple of weeks, it may be beneficial to rack the beer into a secondary fermenter and let the yeast further flocc out of the beer and completely finish off all the sugars that it wants to have a go at - note: the yeast never completely finishes off all the available sugars, but that's another topic!
Apart from improving the clarity and quality of the beer, some brewers also like to dry hop their beer. Since the vigorous ferment in primary pushes a lot of CO2 out of your airlock, it also pushes out some of the hop aroma that you went to the trouble of adding in the first place, so some brewers like to compensate for that by adding 10g or so of dry hops straight onto the beer that you rack into the secondary fermenter. It's not compulsory but if you want extra aroma to the beer, it's one way of doing that.
Another reason why some brewers rack their beer is to bulk prime it - instead of adding priming sugar to the bottle, you can add 160g,or so, of sugars to a fermenter, rack the beer to mix (without splashing or bubbling which may oxidise the beer = cardboard flavours) and then bottle the primed beer. Just make sure that primary is finished before you add the beer to the bulk sugars and make sure that when you gently transfer the beer by hose, you curl it around the bottom of the racking fermenter so you create a gentle whirlpool that helps dissolve and mix the priming sugar to the beer.
So, racking is an optional step used by brewers to further condition and/or bulk prime their beer. Taking the beer off the yeast cake virtually eliminates the risk of yeast autolysis which results in a totally undrinkable beer if you leave the beer on the yeast cake at fermenting temps for too long...

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Cheers TL,

This brew didn't go above 16 C all day. Hoping it will get a bit cooler tonight and if I keep the ice up maybe I can get down to 14 ish.

The bevarian lager yeast packet says it only works to 13 C so I won't push it too hard.

Once the bubbling slows right down I will siphon this brew off into a sterile fermentor and let it sit for another week or 2 until it completely finishes.

If I pitch a new brew on top of the yeast cake that is left in the primary will it cause it to autolysis?
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Kevnlis wrote:...If I pitch a new brew on top of the yeast cake that is left in the primary will it cause it to autolysis?
Nope - you'll have an excellent bed of fresh lager yeast and minimal lag time - I do this when I make a big beer. Make a house standard beer first, then repitch a high gravity wort onto the yeast cake in primary and let the fun begin. Beware of excessive krausen if you fill the fermenter up too high.
Remember, autolysis occurs when the yeast has run out of sugars or nutrients to consume, not when you chuck a new sugar laden brew on top!

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Actually TL, I just checked the fermentor to change the ice bottles and the krausen is bubbling up out of the air lock and the airlock is nearly empty is this going to create a problem? There is a nice little pool of good smelling watery lager on the lid ;)
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just keep it clean and as sanitised as you can and hold out, it should slow down a bit in a couple days at most i'd think. be quite careful of chunks blocking the airlock, the pressure can get rather substantial, as my bathroom ceiling can testify ;)
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All going well with this brew now.

I have purchased a 12 L stockpot and will do a minimash (if I can figure out how) and a small 8 litre or so brew to compare and all grain with the one I just made from the kit.

I am thinking the following for the minimash.

2 KG Vienna
1 KG Dark Munich
200 g Dark Crystal
100 g Caramunich II
40 g Carafa I
40 g Choc Malt

15 grams Hallertau Germany '05 @ boil
10 grams Hallertau Germany '05 @ 30 min
5 grams Hallertau Germany '05 @ flameout

Cool quickly and pitch over yeast cake in current brew (SafLager S23).

Do I strain it or pitch it with the malt still in the wort? If I strain it do I strin before or after I cool it?

Any suggestions/comments welcomed :)
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Plugged that recipe into Beersmith. Looks like it might be drinkable ;)

Gonna go aherad and order all the bits for it today from Ross and see how I go!

Doppelbock


Type: Partial Mash
Date: 20/07/2007
Batch Size: 8.00 L
Brewer: Kevin
Boil Size: 9.16 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: 12L Stockpot
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
2.00 kg Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 59.2 %
1.00 kg Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 29.6 %
0.20 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 5.9 %
0.10 kg Carafa II (412.0 SRM) Grain 3.0 %
0.04 kg Carafa I (337.0 SRM) Grain 1.2 %
0.04 kg Chocolate Malt (450.0 SRM) Grain 1.2 %
15.00 gm Hallertauer [4.80%] (60 min) Hops 15.6 IBU
10.00 gm Hallertauer [4.80%] (30 min) Hops 8.0 IBU
5.00 gm Hallertauer [4.80%] (15 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
1 Pkgs SafLager West European Lager (DCL Yeast #S-23) [Starter 1000 ml] Yeast-Lager



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.093 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.023 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 9.2 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.6 %
Bitterness: 23.6 IBU Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 39.0 SRM Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: My Mash Total Grain Weight: 3.38 kg
Sparge Water: 12.54 L Grain Temperature: 22.2 C
Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C TunTemperature: -17.8 C
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: 5.4 PH




Mash Notes:
Carbonation and Storage

Carbonation Type: Dried Malt Extract Volumes of CO2: 2.4
Pressure/Weight: 63.5 gm Carbonation Used: -
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 15.6 C Age for: 28.0 days
Storage Temperature: 11.1 C

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