Fermenter Smell

[rwh]

blandy, I think.

[Kevnlis]

5L of idophor shacken around inside, which is then used to .

1lt iodophor in a spray bottle here I only use about 1/2 of it.
Thanks to who ever came up with that idea

Same here, about 15min before I do any brewing I give everything a good spray with iodophor, I then repeat right before I start and drain well.

[Noodles]

Jesus!! it's no wonder you blokes are all on water restrictions over there! the homebrewers are emptying the bloody dams just washing bottles and fermenters, That's before you even start turnig water into beer!

Possibly a valid point, I often feel guilty about how much water I use to make a brew. It would be interesting to find out how much water a commercial beer company uses to produce 30 long necks or 60 stubbies.

[collapoo]

i would like to think as home brewers we are a long way ahead on the water and power usage. Considering we reuse our glass bottles, this puts us miles ahead. Think about the energy needed to melt and recycle glass, thats alot of power, driven by coal stations which use steam (water) to drive the turbines. a lot of water is used in energy production. Not to mention the coal burned. diesel water pumps drive our water pressure, but this is much more efficient than having ready made beer driven in relatively low quantities around the country. we use a more effecient mode of transport to get water to our houses.

my above points may well be contradicted by the fact that all our brews come in pre packed cans, or small quantities (even 100kg of grain is a small quantity compared to the breweries) and the additional labour and resources put into these resources may counteract any savings made by reusing glass bottles.

so after a massive post I think I have come a full circle, don't brew to save the world, brew because you like it. At least we don't get hangovers, thats boosting the economy to no end!!

[bottle top]

If you feel guilty about waste water from brewing, consider that producing a kilo of beef requires in the order of 50,000l of water...

[collapoo]

crazy!!

[Noodles]

If you feel guilty about waste water from brewing, consider that producing a kilo of beef requires in the order of 50,000l of water...

But I also love beef, now you've just made me feel worse.

[ryan]

i would like to think as home brewers we are a long way ahead on the water and power usage. Considering we reuse our glass bottles, this puts us miles ahead. Think about the energy needed to melt and recycle glass, thats alot of power, driven by coal stations which use steam (water) to drive the turbines. a lot of water is used in energy production. Not to mention the coal burned. diesel water pumps drive our water pressure, but this is much more efficient than having ready made beer driven in relatively low quantities around the country. we use a more effecient mode of transport to get water to our houses.

my above points may well be contradicted by the fact that all our brews come in pre packed cans, or small quantities (even 100kg of grain is a small quantity compared to the breweries) and the additional labour and resources put into these resources may counteract any savings made by reusing glass bottles.

so after a massive post I think I have come a full circle, don't brew to save the world, brew because you like it. At least we don't get hangovers, thats boosting the economy to no end!!

But if we DID get hangovers, wouldn`t that be good for the economy? You know, people spending heaps on aspirin, berocca, etc?

[Kevnlis]

If we did get hangovers we wouldn't be brewing as much, we would eat less steak and waste less water

[ryan]

But hangovers would be good for the economy, and eating less steak would be bad for it.
Hangovers and eating more fish would probably be ok for the economy tho.

[gregb]

You can get hangovers on homebrew, you just have to work harder at it.

Cheers,
Greg

[Kevnlis]

But hangovers would be good for the economy, and eating less steak would be bad for it.
Hangovers and eating more fish would probably be ok for the economy tho.

Yeah but how much water does it take to make a kilo of fish?

[KEG]

LOL. do you count the ocean?

[Kevnlis]

LOL. do you count the ocean?

Thats what I mean! Death to all fish! They are stealing our precious water! Lets start with the big ones, like whales and such, we could sell them to the Japanese for all that "research" they like to do and put the money into desalination research

[gregb]

Whales are mammals, not fish.

Cheers,
Greg

[ryan]

LOL. do you count the ocean?

Thats what I mean! Death to all fish! They are stealing our precious water! Lets start with the big ones, like whales and such, we could sell them to the Japanese for all that "research" they like to do and put the money into desalination research

And that`s where you let yourself down- by getting rid of all fish, you`ll create a huge demand for more beef. You`ve already seen how much water is required to create just one kg of beef.
You need to be realistic about these things
Like I am.

[ryan]

Whales are mammals, not fish.

Cheers,
Greg

[warra48]

Whales are mammals, not fish.

Cheers,
Greg

And so are sharks.

[ryan]

sharks are not mammals

[Kevnlis]

sharks are not mammals

But cows are, and they make beef, and they use alot of water, so if the whales are related that proves my point further