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Idophor Vrs Bleach

Posted: Monday Dec 05, 2005 6:30 am
by MHD
What is Idophor??

What is it's advantages over household unscented beach?

And is it a home brew store only item?

Posted: Monday Dec 05, 2005 7:32 am
by yardglass
sorry, can we call it Iodophor.

have a go at this MHD.

http://www.bayareamashers.org/content/m ... dophor.htm

i've sanitised with it for the last 2 brews, no rinse, but saying that i havn't had a taste test yet, so make up your own mind.

hope this helps
yard

Posted: Monday Dec 05, 2005 7:52 am
by MHD
Good reading...

Where do you get it from? Supermarkets sell it?

Posted: Monday Dec 05, 2005 7:56 am
by yardglass
HBS i got mine,

a bit difficult to mail order, apparently it's classed as Dangerous Goods.

Posted: Monday Dec 05, 2005 9:07 am
by silkworm
MHD,
I've not seen it in any supermarkets here in Sydney. Woolies, IGA, Coles only sell that horrid Sodium Metasulphate.
HBS has some.
I've been using Milton which is a bleach based sanitiser lately but will try Iodophor when I run out. The Milton has been very good with no taste left after rinsing.
Best of luck.

Posted: Monday Dec 05, 2005 12:13 pm
by db
yardglass wrote:HBS i got mine,

a bit difficult to mail order, apparently it's classed as Dangerous Goods.
I mail order mine from http://www.esbeer.com.au - had 3-4 bottles delivered now & not had any issues (i'm not disputing that its a dangerous good.. just that i havent had any issues. i guess it'd depend on your HBS)

http://www.homebrewandbeer.com/forum/vi ... t=iodophor

http://www.homebrewandbeer.com/forum/vi ... t=iodophor

http://www.homebrewandbeer.com/forum/vi ... t=iodophor

Posted: Monday Dec 05, 2005 1:32 pm
by Tyberious Funk
silkworm wrote:MHD,
I've not seen it in any supermarkets here in Sydney. Woolies, IGA, Coles only sell that horrid Sodium Metasulphate.
Some shops also sell neopink, which I've used quite happily in the past.

Posted: Monday Dec 05, 2005 3:10 pm
by silkworm
Tyberious Funk wrote: Some shops also sell neopink, which I've used quite happily in the past.
Ty,
Isn't neopink Bleach based?
Correct me if I'm wrong. MHD was after Iodophor

Posted: Monday Dec 05, 2005 3:21 pm
by Tyberious Funk
silkworm wrote:
Tyberious Funk wrote: Some shops also sell neopink, which I've used quite happily in the past.
Ty,
Isn't neopink Bleach based?
Correct me if I'm wrong. MHD was after Iodophor
To be honest, I'm not sure... but it is not sodium met... so, y'know, at least it's an option for those that don't like sodium met.

Posted: Monday Dec 05, 2005 3:25 pm
by silkworm
True true true Ty,
Neo pink worked for me just fine as well.
Its not sodium met so Happy days :)

Posted: Tuesday Dec 06, 2005 3:32 pm
by Jacko
So you guys don't recommend using sodium met?

Is it because the sulpher smell passes on the the brew?

I just used it to sterilise my first batch, what is best to use?

Cheers....

Posted: Tuesday Dec 06, 2005 3:53 pm
by Lebowski
I've used sodium met for a while now without any problems, I seemed to have better beers after switching to it from neo pink.

Posted: Wednesday Dec 07, 2005 7:20 am
by silkworm
I just had one batch that I must not have rinced well enough and tasted of the stuff.
I found the flavour of it too much and have now switch to other sanitisers.
JMHO

Posted: Wednesday Dec 07, 2005 7:34 am
by yardglass
db wrote:
yardglass wrote:HBS i got mine,

a bit difficult to mail order, apparently it's classed as Dangerous Goods.
I mail order mine from http://www.esbeer.com.au - had 3-4 bottles delivered now & not had any issues (i'm not disputing that its a dangerous good.. just that i havent had any issues. i guess it'd depend on your HBS)
thanks db,

will definitely try ESB, the HBS that I now get everything else MO says they have chg extra to ship it Dngr Gds.

thanks
yg

Posted: Wednesday Dec 07, 2005 9:07 am
by Aussie Claret
My HBS
Sells the neo pink named sterophos, it definetly is NOT a chlorine based bleach. If you put your hand in a diluted solution you can feel the stuff work straight away I'm guessing that it's some sort of oxidation you feel on your hand. One of the base elements is obviously phosphorous.

I use this stuff it is quick, easy no need to scrub, simply swill out the dregs from the keg or fermenter, 1 -2 table spoons diluted in cold water fill the buggers and leave over night, rinse the next day and away you go.
Clears up all of the dried krausen without any effort. Anything for an easy life.

Cheers
AC

Posted: Wednesday Dec 07, 2005 8:02 pm
by Tipsy
Aussie Claret wrote:My HBS
Sells the neo pink named sterophos, it definetly is NOT a chlorine based bleach. If you put your hand in a diluted solution you can feel the stuff work straight away I'm guessing that it's some sort of oxidation you feel on your hand. One of the base elements is obviously phosphorous.

I use this stuff it is quick, easy no need to scrub, simply swill out the dregs from the keg or fermenter, 1 -2 table spoons diluted in cold water fill the buggers and leave over night, rinse the next day and away you go.
Clears up all of the dried krausen without any effort. Anything for an easy life.

Cheers
AC
Must be different from the Brewiser neo-pink, it has 100% chlorinated trisodium phosphate. (Stinks like chlorine)

Posted: Thursday Dec 08, 2005 7:44 am
by silkworm
This product must vary from HBS to HBS as the neopink I buy has bleach in it.
It is packaged at the shop so could be their own mix?

Posted: Thursday Dec 08, 2005 8:32 am
by Balls
I mainly use hot water. Sometimes if I can get my hands on it, I'll use Hydrogen Peroxide. It is fairly dangerous if your not careful, once sanitised I drain and leave for about 30mins and then use. No problems so far 8)
Cheers

Posted: Friday Dec 09, 2005 8:29 am
by nogga
If anybody is interested in a cheaper sterilizer, I've been using napi-san for a couple of years and never had an infection. My last two brews, I've actually used a generic version of napi-san from Bi-Lo supermarket (active ingrediant sodium percarbonate) and it has done the job fine. Although I'm sure it is not as thorough as bleach or what your HBS stocks, it is cheap and does the job. Anything that sterilizes sh*ty nappies must be reasnably good.

Posted: Friday Dec 09, 2005 9:17 am
by silkworm
Nogga
A guy who sold me a brew set up passed on some Milton (baby's milk bottle santizer) he had been using.
It had no smell and worked a treat. I've just run out.
I thought Napi-san had a strong smell so I was avoiding it.
Did you have to rince a lot?
I can't always get to the HBS when I want to so the supermarket for this type of stuff is quite often the only option at a pinch.
If I get to the supermarket (Milton) or the HBS first (Iodophor or Noe Pink) I'll use one of these. Happy with them all so far...