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Cheeno
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Post by Cheeno »

Hello all. I recently tried to rack my brew for the first time (seven days in and some airlock activity) and all did not go according to plan. I thought I was being a smarty-trousers by using a cut off tip of a caulking gun as a nozzle over my tap which then fit neatly into my hose. Some of you are probably laughing already (it seemed like a good idea at the time) but suffice to say a little bit (well actually quite a bit) of oxygen may have become involved. I managed to get things working a bit better towards the end but I fear it was too little, too late. So, in language even someone who would attempt the above, can understand, what is the best way attach the hose to the tap (given that they are the same diameter)? One post said to cut a piece off your bottling tool (tube?) but it seems a bit drastic to ruin such a useful item. I avoided buying hose that would go over the tap as I thought this would be too thick. Any ideas? Also what is the prognosis for my beer (Classic Aussie bitter style with some POR Hops) is there anything I can do to retrieve the situation. To add insult to injury I am having trouble locating the o-ring seal on my 2nd fermenter and can't get another for about 24 hours. The lid is on but airlock is dead. You can see I need help

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Post by Jacko »

Although I have not tried it, if you only cut a couple of inches off the bottling tube, it still should be long enough to use in long necks, the one I got with my kit is 3-4" longer than is needed.
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Post by Jacko »

While on this topic, would a length of sterilised garden hose be suitable for transfering from one fermenter to another?

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Post by undercover1 »

Cheeno,
Buy a couple of metres of larger diameter hose- mine fits perfectly over the tap.
Maybe take a tap with you to check fitting. Should slide on snugly.
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Post by grabman »

my racking hose fits inside the tap, nice snug fit!

Again as UC1 suggested take a tap with you to check sizing!!
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Cheeno
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Post by Cheeno »

Thanks all for your swift replies. I have obviously perfectly created the problem I was trying to avoid. If a snug fit in or over the tap does the trick I will trot down to the hardware (with the tap) and find some hose that will work. Any members of the brew recovery unit had any thoughts on the plight of my current batch? Or will I just have to be reminded of my stupidity with every sip?

Cheers in advance.
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Post by tyrone »

Got some help with the botteling once,he ment well but the shaking the shit out of the fementer didn't help.The beer came out good in the end but took 3 months to do so and as it was a wheat this is quite a while as they can be drinkable in a month.So bottel or keg and age it well all should be good.
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Post by kurtz »

If you are adding sugar to your bottles for carbonation then you probably need not worry to much about some additional oxygen sneaking in! You will get true secondary fermentation in the bottle as you have added extra fermentables to the now finished beer, which of course, stoill has some actiive and happy yeast in it. The yeast will chomp up the sugar and at the same time scavenge what little extra oxygen you have added, remember that your long neck already had 750ml of air in it, complete withoxygen !..

Kurtz

ps as to your O ring ..forget it you do not need it, see my posts on oxygen and infection and the remarkable ability o your plastic fermentor to diffuse oxxygen !!

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Post by Dogger Dan »

There is some good misinformation there to. :wink:

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Post by tyrone »

Cheeky bugger :D
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Post by Dogger Dan »

No cheek at all,

Want cheek, go to Kurtzs web site, then try and take it seriously
:lol: :wink:

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Post by db »

Dogger Dan wrote:No cheek at all,

Want cheek, go to Kurtzs web site, then try and take it seriously
:lol: :wink:

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i see what you mean DD
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Post by MHD »

hehe... Another website where you will find out more about Kurtz is http://www.canberrabrewers.org (sorry Kurtz) :)
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Post by Cheeno »

Feeling a bit better about the whole thing now. At the end of the day you really just have to bottle it and move on. It could make good xmas presents! :wink:
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Post by tyrone »

Just hope it all works out.But all mistakes are just lessons being learnt.
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Post by General »

Dogger,

How the hell does he expect to be taken seriously on this forum if he publishes s*#t like that on the web.

Your advice has always steered me in the right direction, his seems like high and mighty gibberish.
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the website

Post by Dr Love »

Sorry, but what the hell is that website about... it may be right or wrong but frankly I simply have no idea what it is going on about. Feel free to explain Kurtz... I'm assuming this has something to do with your passion for infection detection.
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