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Starting Malt Extract brewing..
Posted: Monday Jul 10, 2006 9:28 pm
by fixa
Hey all..
I want to try a malt extract brew..
Any tips or hidden secrets?
The recipie i'm gonna try is;
2500g Light Malt Extract
125g Crystal Malt
200g Malto Dextrin Powder
30g Willamette Hops
20g Goldings Hops
1/2 Tablet Irish Moss
Now, it says LME... can i use dried malt or is liquid better?
The dried will end up more expensive i think... arond $11/kg vs $9 for liquid.. I can also get organic malt from the supermarket. Would this be any good?
Cheers! Look forward to any advice you can give me.

Posted: Tuesday Jul 11, 2006 6:38 am
by gregb
Fixa,
I'd go with dry extract. Dunno about the supermarket organic malt, save it for a later experiment probably.
Your recipe doesn't state how long the hops are in the boil.
Cheers,
Greg
Posted: Tuesday Jul 11, 2006 11:33 am
by Wassa
You have to remember that 1kg of dry malt equals about 1.3kg of liquid malt. They don't have the same amount of fermentables as liquid malt has liquid added.
Posted: Tuesday Jul 11, 2006 12:51 pm
by Chris
I'd not use the 'organic' stuff. You don't know what else is in there, and it is not prepared for the specifics of brewing.
Definately use liquid malt. I've never even heard of an extract brewer using dry malt.
I'd go 3L of liquid for 20L of brew.
As for the hops, it all depends on what you are planning to do with them.
Re: Starting Malt Extract brewing..
Posted: Tuesday Jul 11, 2006 1:28 pm
by velophile
fixa wrote:Hey all..
I want to try a malt extract brew..
Any tips or hidden secrets?
The recipie i'm gonna try is;
2500g Light Malt Extract
125g Crystal Malt
200g Malto Dextrin Powder
30g Willamette Hops
20g Goldings Hops
1/2 Tablet Irish Moss
Now, it says LME... can i use dried malt or is liquid better?
The dried will end up more expensive i think... arond $11/kg vs $9 for liquid.. I can also get organic malt from the supermarket. Would this be any good?
Cheers! Look forward to any advice you can give me.

Go for it!
I'd use 2 x 1.7kg tins of unhopped liquid malt extract.
Steep the crystal & add to boil. Adding the maltodextrin is up to you, using all malt will give plenty of body anyway.
For hop amounts, boil times & bitterness calcs etc
This could be handy.
If you don't have a boil pot big enough for 23+ litres, you can boil one can of extract in about 10 - 15 litres of water for the bitterness & flavour hopping. Then add the second can either straight to fermenter or mix in at flame out.
Posted: Tuesday Jul 11, 2006 2:34 pm
by fixa
Thanks guys...
Liquid looks like the go...
So would there be a problem if i boiled say 15 litres of wort, then added the rest as water once in the fermenter?
Posted: Tuesday Jul 11, 2006 3:17 pm
by Terry
Definitely go all liquid malt. The taste is sensational. Add a bit of steeped grain if you like, a few hops (don't over do it) and off you go and a good yeast is essential. Couldn't be simpler and you get a beer creation all of your own. Definitely have a go at using the link that velophile posted and you can't go wrong. I just wish I had that a couple of weeks ago when I did a half batch (about 11L) for my first all-grain. All wne well until I forgot to take into account I was doing a half batch and used a total of 60g pack of pellets at varoius stages of the boil instead of a total of 30g. Its a mistake you only make once.
Posted: Wednesday Jul 12, 2006 12:21 pm
by velophile
fixa wrote:Thanks guys...
Liquid looks like the go...
So would there be a problem if i boiled say 15 litres of wort, then added the rest as water once in the fermenter?
If doing a 15 litre boil, only add one can of extract for the hopping. There is something about hop utilisation in high gravity wort that could cause you trouble. I think if the SG is too high, ie all your extract in only 10 - 15 litres, you won't get full hop utilisation.
I'd boil 1 can in 11.5 litres of water & add hops as per recipe. Disolve second can into pot after the boil. Cool in sink then add to fermenter, topping up with chilled water to ~23 litres.
That should get you to pitching temp easily. Your yeast can be rehyrating while you boil etc.
Posted: Wednesday Jul 12, 2006 1:14 pm
by Chris
And if/when you really get into it, get a nice big stockpot and a wort chiller. Then you'll be set.