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Post your Partial Mash Recipes.

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 11:52 am
by Fents
So i've been searching these forums and most seem to be using Kits still and there are alot of Kit only recipes. This threads dedicated to Partial Mash recipes.

I've only done a couple but trust me as soon as you realise how easy it is to do and how much better the beer tastes than a kit you will be converted.

I'll start :

Daves Partial Pale Ale :

1.65KG Ale grain
.250KG Medium Crystal Grain
.100KG Wheat Grain

1KG LDME
1.5KG Light Liquid Malt

15grams Pride of Ringwood @ 60min
10grams Pride of Ringwood @ 45mins
20grams Goldings @ Final

US-56 Yeast.

Post some of your recipes so i can have a crack. I really wanna do a pilsner of some sort with some tangy cascade hops. 8)

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 11:59 am
by Chris
What's ale grain? I'm assuming that it's 2 or 6 row malted barley?

I'll dig into my brewfiles to find a good recipe for you Fents.

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 12:04 pm
by lethaldog
Gregs AG pilsner recipe as stated in Wals pilsner recipes thread :lol:
This should by no means be thought of as the definitive Pilsner AG recipe but I had fund brewing it, and it made for more than a few 'wow' coments when drinking.

11 Litre batch (was not fully set up at the time)

2Kg Pilsner Malt.

For a first attempt aim to single infusion mash between 65 & 68 for one hour. Later attempts can take stabs at decoction mashing etc.. However, my ineptitude left me with no choice but to do a decoction to get my mash temp up - I had a low strike temp.

I batch sparged.

It was my first AG and efficiency was low. OG was 1038.

28 gm Saaz 60 mins
14 gm Saaz 45 mins
14 gm Saaz 30 mins
14 gm Saaz 15 mins
14 gm Saaz steeped into fermenter

I cooled the pot ( a 19L stock pot from Big W) in the kitchen sink filling the sink with ice and sitting the pot in it.

I used w34/70 yeast.

Have fun, and most importantly: ' Don't worry, relax, have a homebrew'

Cheers,
Greg

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 12:23 pm
by Fents
Chris - My local HBS (GreensboroughHBS) man Dave made the recipe for me hence the name sake. He said the "Ale Grain" was just standerd grain everyone made PA's with.

leathldog - That recipe dosnt state what grains are used?

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 12:46 pm
by lethaldog
Fents wrote:Chris - My local HBS (GreensboroughHBS) man Dave made the recipe for me hence the name sake. He said the "Ale Grain" was just standerd grain everyone made PA's with.

leathldog - That recipe dosnt state what grains are used?
2Kg Pilsner Malt

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 1:19 pm
by Fents
^^^ Coo cheers im still new to this and thought pilsner malt was an actual for of malt and not a grain....

That said what Malt (LDME/LME) is used?

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 1:32 pm
by lethaldog
None just the recipe ingredients above, made up to 11 litres :lol:

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 1:33 pm
by Fents
OK. :D

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 2:30 pm
by Anzac Cookies
Fents wrote:Chris - My local HBS (GreensboroughHBS) man Dave made the recipe for me hence the name sake. He said the "Ale Grain" was just standerd grain everyone made PA's with.

leathldog - That recipe dosnt state what grains are used?
Hey, Greensborough is my local too, Dave is really helpful hey :D

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 3:14 pm
by Fents
Anzac Cookies wrote:
Fents wrote:Chris - My local HBS (GreensboroughHBS) man Dave made the recipe for me hence the name sake. He said the "Ale Grain" was just standerd grain everyone made PA's with.

leathldog - That recipe dosnt state what grains are used?
Hey, Greensborough is my local too, Dave is really helpful hey :D
Hes an absolute legend 8)

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 3:26 pm
by rwh
Am I right in assuming that you need a mashtun like the one here? What about a big kettle to do the boil? At the moment I only have a 16.6L stainless steel pot, which is waaay too small for a 23L batch. You'd need more like a 50L pot wouldn't you? That isn't going to fit into my appartment. I guess if you do partials rather than fulls it might be possible to get away with 16.5L... right?

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 4:07 pm
by Fents
rwh wrote:Am I right in assuming that you need a mashtun like the one here? What about a big kettle to do the boil? At the moment I only have a 16.6L stainless steel pot, which is waaay too small for a 23L batch. You'd need more like a 50L pot wouldn't you? That isn't going to fit into my appartment. I guess if you do partials rather than fulls it might be possible to get away with 16.5L... right?
RWH this is i thought it all got hard, but its not.

A Partial Mash is basically an All Grain mash just scaled down. You do not need a mash tun per say just somthing to mash in...Mash tun (Esky) would help but its not necessary.

What i did was....

Used a 13 litre normal plastic bucket to mash in. For a partial mash you only use about 2KG of grains....so u only need 6 Litres of water to mash 2KG of grains (3Litres per 1KG is what i was told). Basically just mashed (soaked) the grains in this bucket with hot water @ 66c for an hour and wraped the bucket up in as many towels as i could to insulate it. Twice in one hour it fell down to 64c so i just topped it up with kettle water to get it back to 66c.

After that i sparged (rinsed) the grains with another 6 litres (76c) into my 15.1Litre stainless steel stockpot with a normal Siv...

So i ended up with about 12-13 Litres of wort in my pot, boiled that on the stove for an hour adding hops and malt, once it was all boiled i put the brew pot in a sink of cold water and let it cool to about 30c, then strained it into the fermenter and topped up with cold water to 23litres which brought the temp down to about 23c. Pitched yeast and Bobs ur Auntys Cousins Sister 8)

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 4:45 pm
by rwh
Hey cool, that sounds like fun! Might have to try that :) Thanks for the detailed reply. I might try doing this Coopers Sparkling Ale clone as a partial mash by doing half the all grain recipe with half the extract recipe.

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 5:07 pm
by ACTbrewer
This was my first partial. I screwed up the mash (esky too big, couldn't maintain temp, and stuck sparge!)

Still came out ok.


Category: 07. PALE LAGER
Style: German style larger
Brewer's Name: J. Downes (not me)
Brewing Method: Partial Mash
Starting Gravity: 1044
Ending Gravity: 1008
Specification Comments: part mash
Size of Batch: 23
Batch Size Unit: Liters
Fermentables: 1 can coopers bavarian lager conc

1.5 kg pils malt mashed
1.5 kg munich malt mashed


Hop Additions: 30 grms halletau 60 mins
30 grams halletau 5 mins
Yeast Information: wyeast 2206

Posted: Wednesday Sep 06, 2006 6:15 pm
by lethaldog
rwh wrote:Am I right in assuming that you need a mashtun like the one here? What about a big kettle to do the boil? At the moment I only have a 16.6L stainless steel pot, which is waaay too small for a 23L batch. You'd need more like a 50L pot wouldn't you? That isn't going to fit into my appartment. I guess if you do partials rather than fulls it might be possible to get away with 16.5L... right?
Could you get away with doing two of your 16 litre batches and putting them together? Ive never done this but what would be the harm in doin a smaller batch with the same ingredients and just adding more water to the fermenter?

Posted: Thursday Sep 07, 2006 8:36 am
by Duane
If your going to the trouble of brewing a partial, why not go AG?
Doesnt take any extra time and the results are far better. (no homebrew twang from can of goo). I brew Ag but am only brewing 15lt batches untill my kettle and HLT have the valves welded. I have an esky mash tun and kegs for kettle and HLT for my larger batches, but for the small ones I just use the bucket in bucket system. Kettle and HLT are just 20lt stockpoys from big W.
Too easy and the best beer you will ever make or buy. :wink:

Posted: Thursday Sep 07, 2006 11:17 am
by Fents
Duane wrote:If your going to the trouble of brewing a partial, why not go AG?
Doesnt take any extra time and the results are far better. (no homebrew twang from can of goo). I brew Ag but am only brewing 15lt batches untill my kettle and HLT have the valves welded. I have an esky mash tun and kegs for kettle and HLT for my larger batches, but for the small ones I just use the bucket in bucket system. Kettle and HLT are just 20lt stockpoys from big W.
Too easy and the best beer you will ever make or buy. :wink:
Partial in my eyes is a small AG. I dont use kits to do partials. Some people dont have the room/size/equip to mash 5KG of grain. So doing a partial and mashing 2kg and having the wort come to about 12-14 litres then just topping up with water is all im doing. When i get my proper equipment i'll go all AG. I still cant belive the taste difference from a mash to a kit, its bloody amazing, best thing i've ever done. 8)

Posted: Thursday Sep 07, 2006 1:22 pm
by blandy
I find AG batches take way longer than partials because you've got to heat up/cool down heaps more water.

Posted: Thursday Sep 07, 2006 2:36 pm
by rwh
Yeah, guess that's why the wort chiller is pretty much required equipment.

Posted: Thursday Sep 07, 2006 3:10 pm
by blandy
That's still factoring the wort chiller into it, rwh