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coopers australian pale ale

Posted: Sunday Sep 10, 2006 11:05 pm
by Hatchet Juggla
I'v searched a fair bit for a great recipe for this, but am left a little wanting.

i got a cooper's australian pale ale from bi-lo today, just becouse really. what exacly should i buy from my home brew shop tomorrow? i'm going in to get a bench capper, i figured some good hops, a decent yeast and some great fermentables for this can will fit on the shopping list.

this is my second brew, so i dont want to mess it up. it has to taste at least as good as my 1st. (morgan's pilsner kit+kilo of dex)
however, I am an experimental kind of guy, so if you want me to try something a little bit crazy out, if it sounds good to me i might give it a whirl. throw in your suggestions!

many thanks in advance!

Posted: Sunday Sep 10, 2006 11:24 pm
by lethaldog
try this,

Black rock pale ale
500g glucose/dextrose
500g normal white sugar (trust me :lol: )
50g carapils grain (crushed)
pride of ringwood hops 12g (5 min simmer)
Yeast starter made from the bottle that you just bought :lol: ( if you dont know how to do this then do a search as it has come up plenty of times)
final volume 21 litres

Enjoy! :lol: :wink:

Posted: Sunday Sep 10, 2006 11:37 pm
by Hatchet Juggla
hmmm... perhaps i wasnt clear....

i bought a pale ale home brew kit... but i can try that next if you think its that great ;)

Posted: Sunday Sep 10, 2006 11:39 pm
by lethaldog
Just to add i didnt read the part about the can, i thought you meant a bottle of pale ale, try this can with the other ingredients i gave you less the can i recommended, and if you cant get a starter going then just grab a safale yeast and pitch that :lol:

Posted: Sunday Sep 10, 2006 11:43 pm
by Hatchet Juggla
awesome! thanks for the tips. i'll put this on tommorow at around 3.30, if anyone wants to talk me out of it and into something else, theres your deadline.

Posted: Monday Sep 11, 2006 8:17 am
by DonMI6
I just bottled my first Coopers PA yesterday, done as per instructions with a 1kg bag of BE2 & the kit yeast.

Gotta say, straight out of the fermenter it smelt & tasted sensational and I'm gonna do another tonight using a can of Morgans Caramalt.

Posted: Saturday Sep 16, 2006 12:29 pm
by Ash
DonMI6 wrote:I just bottled my first Coopers PA yesterday, done as per instructions with a 1kg bag of BE2 & the kit yeast.

Gotta say, straight out of the fermenter it smelt & tasted sensational and I'm gonna do another tonight using a can of Morgans Caramalt.
I've got the same brew down with about a week on it.

Everyone here seems to love to say all these additives are needed to "improve" the brew (bloody beer snobs you lot are :P ), but I reckon go for the baseline K&K as Coopers specify (can of CPA + BE2), then improve it to your own taste next time if you aren't satisfied.

I'm a bit scared about lethaldog suggesting we trust him about the white sugar though! :shock:

Posted: Saturday Sep 16, 2006 12:51 pm
by lethaldog
Ash wrote:
DonMI6 wrote:I just bottled my first Coopers PA yesterday, done as per instructions with a 1kg bag of BE2 & the kit yeast.

Gotta say, straight out of the fermenter it smelt & tasted sensational and I'm gonna do another tonight using a can of Morgans Caramalt.
I've got the same brew down with about a week on it.

Everyone here seems to love to say all these additives are needed to "improve" the brew (bloody beer snobs you lot are :P ), but I reckon go for the baseline K&K as Coopers specify (can of CPA + BE2), then improve it to your own taste next time if you aren't satisfied.

I'm a bit scared about lethaldog suggesting we trust him about the white sugar though! :shock:
Some recipes need a hint of the flavour that sugar will give, but its up to you if you want to try it or not :lol: :wink: As for the additives compare a brew without to a brew with and i think you will be pleasantly surprised :lol: :lol:

Posted: Saturday Sep 16, 2006 7:25 pm
by Ash
oh I know there's lots of improvements to be made - but if you go customising the recipe straight off the bat how do you know where the baseline is?

Posted: Saturday Sep 16, 2006 7:44 pm
by Boonie
Ash wrote:oh I know there's lots of improvements to be made - but if you go customising the recipe straight off the bat how do you know where the baseline is?
Do what I did, rack half with hops added and bottle the other half......you really do then get a "taste test" of the same beer :D

Posted: Monday Nov 20, 2006 4:17 pm
by melbourne man
how did the brew with white sugar turn out hatchet juggla and lethal?

Posted: Monday Nov 20, 2006 5:43 pm
by lethaldog
Its fine if you use it in correct amounts for the right brew, some brews need that certain flavour that sucrose provides but in saying that i wouldnt recommend using it all the time, just for brews/recipes that require it.

The recipe i gave needs it and tastes fantastic :lol: :wink:

Posted: Monday Nov 20, 2006 6:04 pm
by melbourne man
if i bought a 6 pack of coopers pale ale and just poured all the dregs into the fermenter would that be enough yeast or would i be better off with the kit yeast?

wouldn't some malt go well in this recipe? did you boil everything and what do i do with the grains?

Posted: Monday Nov 20, 2006 6:42 pm
by lethaldog
Use the dregs to make a starter, then it would be enough and no u wouldnt need the kit yeast :lol: :lol: :wink:

Starter

Posted: Monday Nov 20, 2006 7:20 pm
by derfly
I've just put together a starter using dregs of 3 CPA longies and 100g of LDME boiled in about half a litre of water.

This will eventually (tomorrow?) go into a blackrock IPA.

I'll let you know how it goes.

Posted: Monday Nov 20, 2006 7:23 pm
by lethaldog
hope you didnt boil the dregs :lol: :lol: :wink:

Posted: Monday Nov 20, 2006 7:49 pm
by melbourne man
i can't be bothered with the dregs becasue i have no malt or pale ales. i will get some safale s04 or just 2 packs of the coopers yeasts.

Re: Starter

Posted: Tuesday Nov 21, 2006 10:18 am
by rwh
derfly wrote:This will eventually (tomorrow?) go into a blackrock IPA.
I find you need about 48 hours to get high krausen.

Posted: Tuesday Nov 21, 2006 11:19 am
by melbourne man
i think i will add to my can of coopers APA
150g crystal grain
1kg of LDME minus what i need for bulk priming (180g)
goldings hop pellets 12g boiled for 5 mins
SAFale-S04 yeast

will this be too sweet? i have 12g of cascade and 12g left over of goldings should i boil them up to make it a bit more bitter?

also what % will it be, about 4.7?

Posted: Tuesday Nov 21, 2006 11:46 am
by timmy
I put down a Coopers Aust. Pale with just a kilo of BE2 and the kit yeast as my third brew. I thought it was pretty good after a week in the bottle. My only criticism is lack of head retention, but this might improve with age. Next time I'll probably use some carapils to fix this.

I also found the bottle dregs to be pretty firm and not easy to move, so you can pretty much pour off all of the bear nice and clearly.