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Coopers Canadian Blonde

Posted: Tuesday Mar 08, 2005 4:39 pm
by Jay
Hi Guys,

A couple of yeast related questions...

Is the yeast in this kit a lager or ale yeast? (Instructions say ferment at Ale temps so I'm assuming Ale).

Do you recommend going with the supplied yeast or going for Safale?

I'm gonna brew this kit with 1kg of "coopers brew enhancer 1" and was after a no-nonsense, cheap, light bodied, quaffing brew that I can ferment at about 20C.

Cheers,
Jay.

Posted: Tuesday Mar 08, 2005 6:16 pm
by gregb
It comes with an Ale yeast. Not sure if it is any different to the yeast supplied with the standard (white) coopers tins.

I've had them come up very drinkable with just a bag of Bodybrew and yeast as supplied.

Bodybrew is 600gm Dextrose 400gm Maltodextrin.

Posted: Tuesday Mar 08, 2005 10:03 pm
by Dogger Dan
Its an ale yeast, I like Coopers Yeast so I wouldn't trade it off especially if all you want is a quick and dirty

Dogger

Posted: Wednesday Mar 09, 2005 1:12 pm
by Guest
Thanks guys,

I've been substituting the yeast supplied with my last few kits with Safale yeast but if you guys reckon that the Cooper's yeast can cut the mustard I won't substitute when throwing down a Cooper's kit.
Thanx Greg, The Coopers Brew Enhancer 1 is a mix of dextrose and maltodextrin so I should, hopefully, get a very drinkable brew as well.

Cheers,
Jay (couldn't be arsed logging in)

Posted: Thursday Mar 10, 2005 5:33 pm
by GTI86
Cracked a blonde on the weekend made from much the same recipe after
5 weeks very drinkable light but malty yum :D

Posted: Friday Mar 11, 2005 10:25 pm
by ghost
made my latest CB using 1kg dex and 500g of LDM turned out magnif give it a go you will love it :D

Posted: Saturday Mar 12, 2005 8:27 am
by Jeff
Jay,

I added 300 grams of honey to my Canadian Blonde and its a very smooth, light in body and colour, easy drinking beer. Also used Brew Enhancer no. 1. Have faith , you shouldn't have any problems

Posted: Tuesday Mar 29, 2005 5:46 pm
by Guest
Hi Guys,

Sorry to dredge up an old subject :( but I brewed my Canadian blonde 2 weeks ago and won't be able to bottle until this weekend (3 weeks in primary fermenter) will this cause any problems?

Cheers,
Jay.

Posted: Tuesday Mar 29, 2005 6:53 pm
by Marty
Jay,

3 weeks in the fermenter shouldn't make any difference. I have left some of mine for just over a month in the primary and have had no problems. My homebrew supplier quite often leaves them in primary for up to two months and his hb is awesome.

Marty

What is a Canadian Blonde?

Posted: Thursday Apr 07, 2005 8:28 am
by Tony
Tacking on the end of an old thread here ...

Next brew will probably be a canadian blonde, but a question 1st: In terms of the more "traditional" beer styles, what is a canadian blonde? Lager, Pilsener, Pale Ale ...?

Thanks,

Tony

Posted: Thursday Apr 07, 2005 10:26 am
by Dogger Dan
Speaking from experience, being Canadian and all, (sorry if I tread on toes)

There is no difference between a Canadian Lager or Ale. By definition they are both light in colour, and about 5 percent.

Depending on the brew, I find the ale sweeter than the lager.

Dogger

Posted: Thursday Apr 07, 2005 10:56 am
by db
doesn't the canadian come with a wheat yeast?

Posted: Thursday Apr 07, 2005 11:31 am
by Oliver
The Canadian Blonde comes with an ale yeast.

Oliver

Posted: Thursday Apr 07, 2005 11:32 am
by Tony
Hmmm not quite what I was looking for. Let me try again.

I know the Cooper's Canadian Blonde kit ships with an ale yeast. My question was more about what style of beer a generic "canadian blonde beer" should be?

I infer from Dogger's reply that it's basically whatever the manufacturer wants to make it, similar to what the Oz macros do for Bitter, Lager etc (ie they have no real resemblence to the classic style). Dogger have I misrepresented your post?

Hopefully this doesn't confuse things futher :(

Tony

Posted: Thursday Apr 07, 2005 12:21 pm
by Dogger Dan
Nah.

Tony,

nail on head, not sure the brewers know. To drunk right now guys to give straight answer. Wait for tomorrow.

Dogger

Posted: Thursday Apr 07, 2005 8:12 pm
by two headed brewer
Tony,
no expert, (making it up actually) but I think "Blonde" has been widely used as a marketing label for the general colour and reference to a lighter style of beer. Try "Google", if you can keep away from the porno sites you might find the answer! It's off the topic concerning the yeast, but I've recently bottled a brew with the following recipe which was cold conditioned at about 8 degrees for a week before bottling. Brew temp was approx 16 degrees for 14 days.
Coopers Canadian Blonde kit
Morgans Wheat Malt - 1kg
12 g Cascade Hop steeped
Saflager yeast
Tasted promising out of the test jar! I was trying to produce something along the lines of the Cascade Summer Blonde (marketing gimmick if I ever saw one). Guess I'll know in a week or so.
Bally

Posted: Thursday Apr 07, 2005 8:55 pm
by Hrundi V Bakshi
I looked at google for two searches, trying to drive a wedge in the argument, here are being the results:

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,590 for "blonde ale" canada
Results 1 - 10 of about 5,590 for "blonde lager" canada

Make from that what you will but I am thinking that many people, including writers of web pages are not going to correctly distinguish from ale and lager, that is to say that many many people are using the terms of "beer", "lager" or "ale" interchangeably without knowing or caring if they are correct or incorrect.

This leaves us no answer, which is most unsatisfactory. When there is no answer, I am thinking that the next best thing to an answer is the American craft brewing style guidelines. They are having a style which is not Canadian but must be likely similar to Canada styles because they are North American neighbouring nations. I read this style with interest because it is in "hybrid beer" category! This means it can be brewed with lager yeast in the temperture most traditionally being used by ale or be brewn like a lager but with the ale yeast then cool conditioned! No wonder we are confused!

Posted: Thursday Apr 07, 2005 8:57 pm
by gregb
Try "Google", if you can keep away from the porno sites you might find the answer
Yeah, good luck with that.... :wink:

Greg

Posted: Thursday Apr 07, 2005 9:15 pm
by Dogger Dan
There is nothing to choose between a generic Canadian Lager and a generic Canadian Ale and they are both mass produced the same way. I am not fond of Canadian beers as they emulate the US brews only with a bit more oof.

I do loke the micro brews which are making a good showing right now (Creemore and Brick especially)

Dogger

Posted: Friday Apr 08, 2005 12:57 am
by The hooha man
What about the American Boston Cream ,Dogger.

It must be good for shear weight of numbers