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How does this sound for a recipe?
Can 'o' blue mountain lager
1kg Vienna Grain mini mashed
500g Menanoidin Grain Steeped
500g Carared Grain Steeped
Hersbrucker Hops
500g LDME

Method: Gonna mini mash the Vienna grain, Steep the other 2 grains, add all with can and LDME to a big pot and bring to the boil add 10g Hersbrucker for about 15 mins then another 10g for the last 5 mins... Probably top to 21L and use re hydrated Saflager yeast...

Q's
-Will this be enough fermentables to get around the 5% mark?
-Does anyone think this'll taste a bit like Rooftop Red Lager by Matilda Bay? Which is sort of what I'm going for...
-Is the Blue Mountain the best to use or is there something better for a base, it says on the web site they start with a sort of Vienna style lager. I was also thinking maybe a Munich lager...
-Is there anything else I should or could add

Cheers all who reply







When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading

and when i'm done i'm gonna buy two cans of cheap farmland (coles cheapies) and chuck it on the yeast cake for nice quick all malt lager.

I would just put all the grains in together. What mash temp are you looking at?

Cheers,
Greg

Bout 65-70c.
Someone told me earlier that melanoidin and carared are specialty grains and only need to be steeped. I was thinking of mashing all though...

Does this temp sound right to you, do i need to add 20% pale malted grain if i'm doing this? its just something i read...

I meant to say 20% pale malted barely

Your Vienna has a lower diastatic power than pale malt, but as it only has to mash itself and not additional adjuncts, this shouldn't matter. Just chucking the other grains in with the mash is fine as they're just effectively steeping in the mash water anyway.

Looks to me like you'll be somewhere around the 4% mark with that lot.

What temp are you going to ferment it at, and what is the yeast that comes with the kit?

rwh wrote:Looks to me like you'll be somewhere around the 4% mark with that lot.

I'd expect it to be higher than 4%, with 2 kgs of grain, 0.5Kg of LDME and the kit; I'd be estimating around +5%.

gazpachos0up - I'd back off the melanoidian and carared to 250g of each, possibly up the vienna to compensate.

Also add your hops from 30mins onward to give you more flavour.
Cheers
AC

Whoops I missed the LDME.