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super automatica and screw tops
Posted: Tuesday Jun 05, 2007 9:03 pm
by mobydick
I got a super automatica bottle capper today. Bought it on ebay.
I am about to bottle my first brew. Naturally I tried the capper out on a few stubbies to see how it goes. Does a brilliant job on crown seals - screw tops I'm not to sure.
Seems I have to put an awful lot of pressure on a screw top. I'm scared of breaking a bottle. I have searched the threads and from what I have read the super automatica seems to be the ducks guts, and will seal a screw top.
Do I just need to go harder?
Posted: Tuesday Jun 05, 2007 9:14 pm
by timmy
Moby,
I've used it on screwtops and haven't broken one yet. But it Ttakes a bit more pressure.
Tim
Posted: Tuesday Jun 05, 2007 9:16 pm
by Stekings
Never broke a screw top bottle using these cappers. Yes requires more pressure but don't worry...
Posted: Tuesday Jun 05, 2007 9:37 pm
by mobydick
ok thanks. good to know because I have quite a stash of Coopers Pale stubbies.
Posted: Wednesday Jun 06, 2007 9:03 am
by geoffclifton
I was given my SA s/h, unused for a long time and rather corroded around the capping head. When I cleaned it up and tried it I had no confidence at all in the result as the caps put on an empty bottle seemed really easy to twist off with two fingers. I took it down to the HB and was assured that it was working fine and it has. Probably capped around 900 bottles and not a single problem.
Cheers, Geoff.
Posted: Wednesday Jun 06, 2007 11:04 am
by blandy
Countless screw-tops capped, zero problems.
Posted: Wednesday Jun 06, 2007 11:10 am
by rwh
That's interesting, Geoff. I have a superautomatica bought new, and it caps twist tops so tight that it's virtually impossible to twist them off. Never broken a bottle or anything like that though.
Posted: Wednesday Jun 06, 2007 1:17 pm
by earle
Sometimes the screw tops won't get a good seal if there's a bit of sugar on the thread or if they're a bit crooked. I make sure they're aligned well, and after I invert them to mix in the priming sugar i listen for escaping gas. The sugar makes some of the gas come out of solution and you can hear it escaping if the seal is dodgy.
Earle
Posted: Wednesday Jun 06, 2007 6:01 pm
by gibovski
I find if you cap then try and twist the top off immediately it will come off easily. After 2-3 months it nearly tears the skin off your hands twisting it off. It is worth losing a bit of skin on your hands to get into it though...

Posted: Wednesday Jun 06, 2007 6:23 pm
by warra48
Have done several hundred twist tops and never a problem.
Just make sure you adjust the capper to the lowest level where you can still squeeze the bottle and top under it. It will take a bit more pressure. Once I cap mine, I twist the bottle a half turn, and press the capper down again. This usually leaves a small indent in the top of the cap, which is a good indication it is fully sealed.
Posted: Wednesday Jun 06, 2007 6:49 pm
by mobydick
OK you've convinced me to have faith in my capper. But I still think I'll just try a six pack of twist tops this time, and the rest crown seals. Trust - but verify

Posted: Wednesday Jun 06, 2007 6:56 pm
by Boonie
Try and get the Bell on the capper as close as you can to the bottletop.
I have found it is easier as I get better leverage this way.
Cheers
Boonie
Posted: Wednesday Jun 06, 2007 6:58 pm
by mobydick
Thanks for the tip Boonie. I hadn't tried that. Because I got it second-hand there are no instructions, and I have no experience. Guess I will soon though.
Posted: Thursday Jun 14, 2007 10:14 pm
by hbg
I only had problems when I had some Goldtops with Coopers on there. I ended up throwing 1/2 a packet out. The plain Gold ones from the Home brew store are far better, and work with both Crown/Twist.
Posted: Friday Jun 15, 2007 6:19 am
by r.magnay
That's because the plain ones are thinner and of a lower quality, however, I use both and have no problems on twist tops or crown seals.
Posted: Friday Jun 15, 2007 8:33 pm
by Boonie
I have used Coopers brand all the time with no probs at all. Actually, that's all I use now

. The gold/yellow ones with Coopers Home Brew written on top.
I used Homebrand ones once

(See cheapskate in early days) and they leaked. As soon as I capped and shook them, the bottles were fizzing my beer out.
I have used the HB shop ones and the Coopers with no difference in sealing or capping ease.
Once I went to a bench capper it made things alot easier.
Cheers
Boonie