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James Squire's clones - anyone have any...

Posted: Tuesday Jul 03, 2007 2:32 pm
by grunthos
...for a newbie like me?

Cheers guys - most excellent website and forum.
:D

Posted: Tuesday Jul 03, 2007 3:02 pm
by rwh

Posted: Sunday Jul 15, 2007 1:31 pm
by possessed_haemorrhage
I just put down a James Squire Amber Ale today, actually.

Muntons Premium Blonde Kit
1.5kg Liquid Amber Malt
250g Maltodextrin
Golden Cluster finishing hops tea bag
Safale Yeast

Posted: Tuesday Jul 17, 2007 10:55 am
by grunthos
Most kind but all a 'little' advanced for a newbie like me - was just after a
"Oi use THIS kit and bung in THIS malt "
kind of reply.

Search?
Never work.........

Posted: Tuesday Jul 17, 2007 11:02 am
by gibbocore
Dude, with that recipe, all you have to do different to a kit is steep the hop bag in some boiled water and throw it in with the hop bag to the disolved wort.

or

boil all the above ingrediants and at flameout throw the hop bag in and add to the fermenter and fill with water to 23l, and add yeast.

doesnt gt much simpler for a special beer.

Posted: Wednesday Jul 18, 2007 12:22 am
by dragonphoenix73
Dont know where you live Grnthos, but Brewcraft have a JS Amber Ale converter kit available...

...loooks like thats what possessed_haemorrhage used. I know I did, and its a popular brew around here.... :lol: :D

Posted: Saturday Jul 21, 2007 9:36 pm
by collapoo
hey mate, I am enjoying a amber ale clone right now,

morgans royal oak amber ale
liquid amber malt 1.5kg
fuggles finishing, steeped
21 litres brewed at 24 degress celcius

i just used the yeast in the kit and the lot has come out beautifully. very drinkable immedietly and it just keeps getting better with age. the head doesn't last to long but hey it tastes great!

Posted: Saturday Jul 21, 2007 9:38 pm
by collapoo
ps. looks like the recipe above with the maltodextrine would overcome the head retention issues!

James Squires Porter

Posted: Monday Jul 23, 2007 9:12 pm
by gazpachos0up
This is a dark ale i recently made, tried JS Porter the other day, I reckeon its pretty damn similar. Porter is made with lager yeast apparently, you could try this recipe with a lager yeast for that result.

Black Rock Nut Brown Ale Kit
200g Stout Grain and about 200g Golden Promise ale grain steeped in EasyYo for about 2 hours (smelt great)
400g LDME
1kg Brew Booster
15-20g Willamette hops
Safale yeast

Boiled all including can added hops at flameout, would suggest adding a little bit in the boil for a bit of flavour.
Its a great colored ale (very red) like a porter

*First post Golden ale atempt

Posted: Tuesday Jul 24, 2007 9:55 pm
by KP Brewha
:shock: hey hey heres my atempt at the golden ale *very tasty drop*

1 pale golden ale can
1.5kg liquid light malt
75g's Munich grain
75g's Crystal grain (both sat in 1ltr boiling water (20mins) then strained into fermenter)seperately
30g's Cascade hops

heated light malt in pan with 2 ltrs water added 15g's cascade early on
then 15g's during cool down. 40 mins total malt wouldnt boil.

added can of heated golden ale last into fermenter (which was 3/4's full of purified water) then added more water to correct levels

standard yeast added then stirred in last at 24 C .

wish me luck , smelt AWESOME .

Posted: Wednesday Jul 25, 2007 12:27 am
by Rysa
Hi KP,

probably won't hurt but not supposed to boil your grains.
Will just end up with a grainy taste to it from the tannins but next time just steep them i'd recommend.

Posted: Wednesday Jul 25, 2007 9:44 pm
by KP Brewha
hey Rysa thanks for the tip, they didnt get boiled just sat in water from boiled jug in a saucepan for 20 (just re reading my post ha ha yes would appear i did boil them) my bad no extra heating occured :oops:

could you please fill me in to what steeping is? i just use a strainer when pouring into the fermenter :?:

heard of some peeps using a stocking and just sitting the stocking in the hot water ? good idea?

little off topic i know , still learning cheers

KP

Posted: Wednesday Jul 25, 2007 10:33 pm
by timmy
Basically right on the steeping front KP.

The stocking/hot water thing is basically what steeping is - 70deg C is about right for steeping your specialty grains.

Posted: Wednesday Jul 25, 2007 10:38 pm
by nt
Steeping is soaking??? I think they are the same...

Basically just throw grain in 65C water for 20 min then take the grain out anyway you like. I use colander. It is a good idea to rinse those grain with warm water to extract any sugar remain.

Posted: Thursday Oct 18, 2007 8:30 pm
by JubJub
I did this AG IPA hoping to end up with the JS IPA,

4.5 kg Pale grain
250 g Crystal 60

33 g POR 60min 11.5%AA
40 g Goldings 30min 6.5%AA
10 g Goldings 10min 6.5%AA

Forgot the fuggles

Mash grain at 66-68 degrees C for 2 Hours.

Colect 15 - 16L

Boil, add hops, moss etc.

OG in fermeter 1050, FG 1006. not malty enough I think.

Used US56 as it is a nice and clean yeast

8 days in fermenter. Tastes nicely bitter at about 50-60 IBUs.

One more week in bottles and will try.

Posted: Saturday Oct 20, 2007 9:51 pm
by JubJub
Ok, tasted it today.

Still very young but has a nice maltyness and good mouthfeel. Nicely bitter, however I would spread the goldings out a bit say 30, 20, 10 and 5 mins with 20g or so Fuggles at flameout. Colour is an orange bronze.

Jub