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Putting this down this afternoon

Posted: Saturday Nov 17, 2007 1:21 pm
by yamaroo
Hello all

Bought some supplies on thursday and plan on putting this down this afternoon

1 X 1.7kg can coopers sparkling (premium selection)
1 x 1.5kg can morgans amber malt extract
1 x Flavour plus pack has Malted barly:crystal,chocolate,220g
also has 13g of east kent goldings hops.
And a safeale s-04 yeast

I have all the above x2 as i plan on doing 2 batches

what i would like to know is how much more hops could i add i have some east kent goldings hops and some fuggels in the freezer.

I also have a bag of 50/50 and was wondering if i could add a little of this
to boost the FG i have a 1kg bag was thinking of addin approx 250g

And if there are other sugestions please feel free to add as my home brew shop is but a 5min walk away.

Thanks All Nicol

Posted: Saturday Nov 17, 2007 3:50 pm
by Chris
I wouldn't bother adding more fermentables, you should get a good beer from what you have. Maybe drop the volume to 21, 20 or 18L if you want a bit more out of it.

I'd consider throwing another 7-14g of either goldings or fuggles (or a combo of both) in to the pot for 20mins.

Posted: Monday Nov 19, 2007 1:42 pm
by earle
Perhaps I'm a bit late with this reply but I would be trying to use the hops to get a bit more bitterness. That Morgans Amber extract can make a brew a bit sweet. I have used it with Morgans Amber Ale (38 IBU) and found it too sweet. The coopers sparkling ale has an IBU around 27. Depends how you like your beer. I'm sure if you do a search you'll find some links to web sites which have bitterness calculators so you can work out how much your adding and adjust future brews to suit.

Posted: Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 4:12 pm
by yamaroo
Thanks earle i did add extra hops to the boil at 30mins and at 15 mins about 30g all up might dry hop aswell when i rack.

Posted: Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 9:27 pm
by Wassa
Dry hop!!!!

For the second brew get hold of some Cascade or Amarillo, preferably Amarillo and try them. Sound slike you could have a great JS Golden Ale clone going.

Posted: Thursday Nov 22, 2007 8:25 am
by earle
As long as I can get the sweetness balanced out I don't mind a bit of the amber. Might have a go at this one sometime. Let us know how it turns out.
1 x Flavour plus pack has Malted barly:crystal,chocolate,22g
Have you got some more info on this flavour pack. Is it just 22g of mixed grain? Doesn't sound like much.

Posted: Thursday Nov 22, 2007 2:02 pm
by yamaroo
Oops missed a 0 on that one shoud of read 220g
Fixed it now

Its an infusion pack that my local homebrew shop makes up.

From the pack Malted barly:Crystal, chocolate,220g
Hops:East kent Goldings,13g

Will try the Amarillo on the next brew.
Will keep posted on how it goes with this one. Due to rack this week end.

Not due to bottle till about the 01/12/2007

Thanks all

Posted: Thursday Nov 22, 2007 3:36 pm
by warra48
Amarillo seems to be the popular flavour of the month, so to speak.
I'm going out on a limb, and state that I do not like Amarillo. I brewed an AG Amarillo Ale recently, and I'm drinking them now. However, I do not enjoy the Amarillo character. To me it seems to have the flavour and aroma of fruit salad, and I think it sits uneasy with the malt character I enjoy in my beers. I'd rather have the citrussy character of Cascade. If I'm spending 4 to 5 hours putting a brew together, I'd like to at least enjoy them.
Having said that, taste is a personal thing, and lots of people seem to enjoy Amarillo. Suck it and see, I guess.

Posted: Friday Nov 23, 2007 8:43 am
by Trough Lolly
I like Amarillo - for flavouring and aroma only....I'd look elsewhere for bittering but that's just my personal pref. I find Chinook for bittering and Amarillo for flavouring to be a good combo - NB for bittering and Amarillo for flavouring make a good combo too!

Cheers,
TL

Posted: Monday Nov 26, 2007 4:22 pm
by yamaroo
Racked this about 10 mins ago and it tasted like a winner

so i am going to put the other one down exatly the same.

Thanks for all the Hop advice all you have given me somthing to think about.

Thanks Guys