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Well not exactly happy with the kits iv been doing.
But not knowing what hop to use, I went and bought some beers for a taste test.
1)Coopers pale ale- Very nice, easy drinking, POR not overpowering for me so maybe POR for hops.
2)Coopers sparkling ale- same as above.
3)James squire amber ale- strong, nutty type of flavour but carnt find what hops is in it.
4)LCPA-wow very grapefruity tast, maybe too srtong for my liking for an every day type of thirst quencher.

Still looking for a JSGA to try a amarillo type hop.
Can anyone suggest any other type of beers for a taste test for me?
Can I simmer down the hops used in the LCPA clone?
I once tried a coopers draught with a POR tea bag steeped for 10 min then in the fermentor but tasted nothing like the coopers with POR. Why?
Any help appreciated.
Matt

I haven't been using hops for very long(about 6 months) but with POR I've found they need to be boiled for at least an hour, not sure if the t-bags are the same but i don't see why the would be any different. Even after an hour's boil the bitterness is not overpowering, it's actually quit nice. I'm sure though that others will have alot more info for you

I too prefer only early additions of POR. Not sure what hops are in JSAA sorry. LCPA is Chinook and Cascade I believe? I would try a Knappstein Lager, very nice balanced beer with Nelson Sauvin hops.

Willamette is the hop used in JSAA

Definitely try the Knappstein, lovely beer. Maybe try some english ales (Fullers, Newcastle Brown, Old Speckled Hen). I find JSAA dull and boring, a watered down version of an english ale.

You cant clone Coopers Pale without using the yeast from a few stubbies of the real stuff. And no late additions of POR, CPA is a malty beer, not hoppy.

drsmurto wrote:You cant clone Coopers Pale without using the yeast from a few stubbies of the real stuff. And no late additions of POR, CPA is a malty beer, not hoppy.

CPA is amost entirely pale malt, 1% crystal, 4% wheat and about 20% cane sugar. That's how they get it so pale. And yeah, the yeast, and early PoR.

I made this recipe and it is so close that no one, not even I could not pick the real one from mine!

Coopers Pale Ale

Type: All Grain
Date: 21/08/2007
Batch Size: 23.00 L
Brewer:
Boil Size: 27.70 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.10 kg Pale Malt, Galaxy (Barrett Burston) (1.5 SRM) Grain 79.69 %
0.20 kg Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (1.8 SRM) Grain 5.14 %
0.04 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 1.03 %
15.00 gm Pride of Ringwood [9.00 %] (90 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 19.3 IBU
0.55 kg Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 14.14 %
1 Pkgs Coopers Pale Ale (Coopers) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.043 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.008 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.59 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.65 %
Bitterness: 19.3 IBU Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 2.7 SRM Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Light Body Total Grain Weight: 3.34 kg
Sparge Water: 16.76 L Grain Temperature: 22.2 C
Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C TunTemperature: 22.2 C
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: 5.4 PH

Single Infusion, Light Body Step Time Name Description Step Temp
75 min Mash In Add 8.71 L of water at 71.9 C 65.6 C
10 min Mash Out Add 5.57 L of water at 93.5 C 75.6 C



Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
Carbonation and Storage

Carbonation Type: Corn Sugar Volumes of CO2: 2.4
Pressure/Weight: 130.3 gm Carbonation Used: -
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 15.6 C Age for: 28.0 days
Storage Temperature: 11.1 C

Notes

Add 400g Dextrose after target OG. Prime with 160g Dex, age 4 weeks before drinking.