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Out of date by heaps
Posted: Thursday Feb 07, 2008 11:30 am
by racer
Out of date may be an underestimate
Its just a coopers original draught from years ago before I busted my fermentor & never renewed it until I could have a keg system.
Best before 28/09/2003
What can I do
1.Boil and treat like unhoped malt
2.Suck it and see
3.Bin it
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Thursday Feb 07, 2008 11:36 am
by Boonie
racer wrote:Out of date may be an underestimate
Its just a coopers original draught from years ago before I busted my fermentor & never renewed it until I could have a keg system.
Best before 28/09/2003
What can I do
1.Boil and treat like unhoped malt
2.Suck it and see
3.Bin it
No 2, just do not use the yeast that came with it.
Speaking of out of date tins. Big W has a Malt Shovel can that was not there yesterday, 1 only, "Managers Special" for $11 something. Expiry date of 3/07....great special

not. I knew it was odd as they stopped selling Malt Shovel ages ago.
Is that legal? Surely not, misleading describing it as a "Special" I think it should state that it is out of date. They obviously found it out the back storeroom and thought bugger it, some sucket will buy it for nearly full price.
Cheers
Boonie
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Thursday Feb 07, 2008 2:47 pm
by timmy
Just picked up a can of Coopers Wheat with a yeast B/B date of 2002!!!
Will be ditching the yeast and possibly using it for a base for a dunkel. Am I running the risk of the bittering stuff going off? I don't really care if it's off-colour for obvious reasons.
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Thursday Feb 07, 2008 10:26 pm
by benson
ha good topic
i just scored a unused frementer and bottles and bits and peices and 2 cans of coopers larger went out of date in 2003 ,
any sugestions on what to do with it ???
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Thursday Feb 07, 2008 10:29 pm
by Kevnlis
benson wrote:ha good topic
i just scored a unused frementer and bottles and bits and peices and 2 cans of coopers larger went out of date in 2003 ,
any sugestions on what to do with it ???
Add lots of fresh grain and hops and do not try to use the yeast

Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Thursday Feb 07, 2008 11:42 pm
by sponge
with something like out of date yeast, i read somewhere that if you use premium yeast then you can add the kit-yeast yeast to the boil, and since it kills that yeast, it just acts as food for the premium yeast... if this is the case, can you use out of date yeast in the boil and use it as food as you would for in-date kit-yeast, or will it produce off flavours?
sponge
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Friday Feb 08, 2008 7:02 am
by timmy
benson wrote:ha good topic
i just scored a unused frementer and bottles and bits and peices and 2 cans of coopers larger went out of date in 2003 ,
any sugestions on what to do with it ???
You could use it for yeast starters if you want. But that's a lot of starters!
Or just chuck in a kilo of table sugar and give it to your megaswilling mates.
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Friday Feb 08, 2008 7:36 am
by scblack
Boonie wrote:racer wrote:Out of date may be an underestimate
Its just a coopers original draught from years ago before I busted my fermentor & never renewed it until I could have a keg system.
Best before 28/09/2003
What can I do
1.Boil and treat like unhoped malt
2.Suck it and see
3.Bin it
No 2, just do not use the yeast that came with it.
Cheers
Boonie
Thats the go!
The kit contents will be fine, but the yeast is way past usefulness.
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Sunday Feb 10, 2008 8:45 pm
by munkee
Don't do it.
Beer will taste stale, and will be of a darker colourtion than u expect
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Thursday Feb 14, 2008 7:08 pm
by bellboys backyard brew
I just scored 12 or so cans from an ex-brewer of out of date 2006/2007 Coopers, Cascade, a few Brigalow Ginger Beers and Cider, Blackrock Whispering Wheat, Cider as well. Can't remember them all. Am looking forward to throwing a few quaffers together with new yeasts.
Q. Is the yeast for the ciders the same as an ale yeast?

Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Thursday Feb 14, 2008 7:16 pm
by lethaldog
munkee wrote:Don't do it.
Beer will taste stale, and will be of a darker colourtion than u expect
I agree that the coulor is different but i have done a few kits that have been a fair bit out of date and they certainly didnt taste stale

Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Friday Feb 15, 2008 12:36 pm
by rwh
bellboys backyard brew wrote:Q. Is the yeast for the ciders the same as an ale yeast?

Possibly, possibly not. Ciders, meads and lemonades are more acidic that your average ale, which might cause some issues with your yeast. I'd probably go with the kit yeast even though it's slightly past its use-by date. Might be worth making a starter or proofing it tho.
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Friday Feb 15, 2008 12:50 pm
by earle
I used an out of date can of Blackrock cider with a can of coopers blonde as an experiment, both yeasts were tossed in. The end result was about 9.5% but is quite drinkable. I reckon you could use ale yeast with cider only but would expect some different flavours. The bloke at the HBS offered to sell me in date cider yeast so you could properly pick some up.
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Friday Feb 15, 2008 7:51 pm
by Trough Lolly
Out of date kit?
Possibly stale?
Add 20g of Amarillo, boil hard for an hour and you'll be fine!

Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Sunday Feb 17, 2008 11:34 am
by racer
Trough Lolly wrote:Out of date kit?
Possibly stale?
Add 20g of Amarillo, boil hard for an hour and you'll be fine!

What time schedule would that be at. Not the full hour shorly.
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Sunday Feb 17, 2008 8:42 pm
by timmy
Just cracked open the can of Coopers Wheat (BB 2002...). Jeez it was dark!!! I'm making a hefeweizen (partial) and I think I was a bit heavy handed on the choc malts so this will be a dark one indeed..... Will post back tasting notes
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Monday Feb 18, 2008 10:02 am
by James L
I had an out of date can of muntons continetal pilsner... it was supposed to be straw colour.. I have to tell everyone who drinks it that its a dunkel... tastes alright though... just not what i expected.
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Monday Feb 18, 2008 11:26 am
by warra48
timmy wrote:Just cracked open the can of Coopers Wheat (BB 2002...). Jeez it was dark!!! I'm making a hefeweizen (partial) and I think I was a bit heavy handed on the choc malts so this will be a dark one indeed..... Will post back tasting notes
You've just made yourself a Dunkelweizen.....
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Monday Feb 18, 2008 2:14 pm
by timmy
I meant a dunkel....
Re: Out of date by heaps
Posted: Thursday Apr 03, 2008 10:54 pm
by benson
benson wrote:ha good topic
i just scored a unused frementer and bottles and bits and peices and 2 cans of coopers larger went out of date in 2003 ,
any sugestions on what to do with it ???
any way i did it with just a new yeast and coopers BE2 it is heaps darker !!!than normal !!!
doesnt taste too bad either , hope i dont get any side effects from drinking it
