Page 1 of 1
hops astringency
Posted: Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 11:07 am
by randomiser
Hi all,
I tried to make an IPA based on a kit and 1.5kg llme. There were 25g perle 1 hour 15g goldings 15min 15g goldings 2 min. All I can taste is the extreme bitterness. Should I not be bittering kits? If I used unhopped liquid malt would that still be too much bittering. It has only been in the bottle 2 weeks.
Re: hops astringency
Posted: Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 11:13 am
by rwh
To work out the theoretical bitterness of your beer, I need to know a few things:
1. What kit did you use?
2. What was your boil volume?
3. What is the AA% of your hops?
Sounds to me like the 25g perle at 60 minutes is your culprit. That would probably be enough to bitter the batch all on its own (depending on its AA% which can be anywhere from 5 to 9.5 %).
I use this calculator to work out my IBUs:
http://www.rooftopbrew.net/ibu.php
And here's a good page on understanding hops vs malt:
http://www.brewsupplies.com/hops-gravity.htm
Re: hops astringency
Posted: Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 11:43 am
by randomiser
It was a black rock IPA kit. I can't find the bitterness for it on the web.
Re: hops astringency
Posted: Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 12:16 pm
by drsmurto
Black Rock East IPA is 16 IBUs.
The current batch of Perle is 6.3%AA.
EKG is normally 4-5%.
As rwh said, need to knwo what volume you boiled the hops in and how much of the malt you added etc.
Re: hops astringency
Posted: Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 1:13 pm
by randomiser
I boiled the llm with about 3 litres of water and the hops. I made the brew up to 21 litres.
Re: hops astringency
Posted: Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 1:15 pm
by drsmurto
This is like pulling teeth....
Without the actual AA% of the hops there isnt much we can do to help you altho with such a concentrated boil hop utilisation will have been greatly reduced.
So mate, what is/was the AA% exactly of the hops you used?
Re: hops astringency
Posted: Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 1:16 pm
by ryan
16 IBU is pretty low for an IPA kit though, isn`t it?

Re: hops astringency
Posted: Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 2:44 pm
by Trough Lolly
...yeah, more an English Mild than an IPA kit!!
That said, the 25g of Perle is a heap, but a high gravity boil probably spared you from losing your tongue!!
Cheers,
TL
Re: hops astringency
Posted: Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 3:21 pm
by Kevnlis
Give it a few more weeks in the bottle. They almost always come good with a bit of age.
Re: hops astringency
Posted: Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 3:36 pm
by James L
yeh.. time always heals the wounds... my NWPA that i worked out to be 90 IBUs, is actually a very nice beer now (after 2 months).. it still has a bit of a bitter bite when you take your first mouthful, but is still nice... you just need to get the SG/BU ratios right, but thats another thing that time will help you do...
Re: hops astringency
Posted: Wednesday Apr 16, 2008 4:04 pm
by Trough Lolly
Don't worry, it's an IPA...
Months 1-2 = Imperial Pale Ale
Months 3+ = India Pale Ale!!
Cheers,
TL