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G'day men,
I've made a few ales and now I want to have a go at doing a pilsner. I have a fermentation fridge and I'll be putting it into kegs. Does anybody have a recipe using saaz hops?
Thanks
Cadbury

http://beerdujour.com/Recipes/Jamil/Jam ... ilsner.htm
from here: http://beerdujour.com/JamilsRecipes.htm

That looks like a pretty good recipe to get you well into the ballpark. I have not brewed it though, but it is really all about the super clean ferment and a simple recipe. Use lots of yeast.

Thanks mate. That is exactly what I'm looking for. Cheers
Cadbury

when I make a brew like that one I like to use first wort hopping

I will be putting this one down tomorrow:

Batch Size: 23 L
Estimated OG: 1.050 SG
Estimated Color: 6.6 EBC
Estimated IBU: 39.6 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 85.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

4750.00 gm Premium Pilsner (2.5 EBC) Grain 95.00 %
250.00 gm Carahell (27.0 EBC) Grain 5.00 %
25.00 gm Horizon [9.30 %] (60 min) (First Wort HopHops 25.3 IBU
30.00 gm Saaz T45 [4.50 %] (30 min) Hops 10.3 IBU
25.00 gm Saaz T45 [4.50 %] (10 min) Hops 4.0 IBU
1 Pkgs Urquell Lager (Wyeast Labs #2001) 7 litre starter

Mash at 66ºC for 90 minutes.

Just racked my latest AG pilsner on the weekend. Its now lagering.

Was a SMaSH recipe (single malt and single hop)

100% pils malt, 100% saaz hops. Dont have the numbers in front of me but from memory it was 40 IBU with 60, 15 and 0 min additions. WLP833 (german bock) yeast altho i have used wyeast 2000 (budvar) in the past.

I prefer mashing a bit lower than Warra, 63-64 is my preference.

I also did a protein rest at 52C and then did a decoction to raise the temp to 63 and another (thin) decoction to hit mash out at 78C but you could do a single infusion.

I just converted one of the recipes to a 60 L batch and it works out that I need 426 g of saaz hops all up. It sounds a lot. Would that be right?
Cadbury

Yeah, I get the following if I scale to 60L:

Amount Item Type % or IBU
14.38 kg Pilsner (2 Row) German (3.3 EBC) Grain 94.12 %
0.90 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3.9 EBC) Grain 5.88 %
125.97 gm Saaz [3.50 %] (60 min) Hops 17.8 IBU
152.69 gm Saaz [3.50 %] (30 min) Hops 16.6 IBU
76.34 gm Saaz [3.50 %] (10 min) Hops 3.9 IBU
74.89 gm Saaz [3.50 %] (0 min) Hops -


I'd be buying a half kilo, or more if you plan on it being good.
You are obviously free to make it less hoppy or do like Warra and bitter with a high AA% variety, but in my opinion all that Saaz is not going to waste.

I'm now 30 minutes into the boil.
Ended up mashing at 64.5ºC, after considering DrSmurto's comments.
Only did a single infusion, with a mashout infusion.
Managed to extract 31.5 litres of wort from 5 kg of grain @ 1.044 SG.
Mashed and sparged with rainwater from my neighbour's tank. Added some small additions to the water, after fiddling with the water profile in BeerSmith.

Thanks for the hop info. I can't wait to get it down.
Thanks again
Cadbury (I'll let you know what it tastes like)