Question about specialty grains

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Question about specialty grains

Postby gibbocore » Wednesday Jul 18, 2007 12:37 pm

Hi guy's,

Sorry if this is a carbon of every other thread in this section but i looked and found half answeres to the questions i need clarification on and an open discussion i find is the best way to find out what i eventually want to know.

I have my round esky and a 40l pot.

I want to brew an Ale and a german pils, i gather i need pale malt some pilsener malt and some specialty grains i know i need are crystal, caramalt and chocolate.

When specialty grains are used are they roasted and therefore require steeping as aposed to being added to the mash or do i add these whole grains to to the mash with my 5 kilos of pale malt?

For example, i want to replicate this red razorback ale

snowy mountains brewery website wrote:With a medium body, four malts in combination provide its rich malty sweetness along with its nutty and biscuit characteristics ... and it's the roasted malts used in the brew which give Razorback its deep copper-red hue.

ABV 4.8%
IBU 28
Bittering Hop Simcoe
Aroma Hop Simcoe
Malt Pale, Crystal, Chocolate & Caramalt
OG 11.45 Plato


do i use mash whole heap of pale malt grain and steep the kilned grain like i was doing a K&K?

Sorry for the long rant, but hopefully others wonder about the same thing when embarking on all grain.

cheers
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Postby Rysa » Wednesday Jul 18, 2007 12:41 pm

Pretty sure you just chuck them in with the mash.

Better wait for some other answers.... :?
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Postby gibbocore » Wednesday Jul 18, 2007 12:48 pm

ahah, cheers Rysa.

i guess what's confusing me is what it is i'm buying when i shop online, i want some caramalt some crystal and some choc, but am i buying kilned grain or grain that needs to be crushed etc or just whole grain that i chuck straight into the tun.
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Postby Rysa » Wednesday Jul 18, 2007 1:03 pm

They all need to be cracked/crushed but fairly sure they all go into the mash at the same time.
According to Mr Papazian it seems so.
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Postby Rysa » Wednesday Jul 18, 2007 1:32 pm

Most places online will crack it for you as long as you specify.
Ross does it at no extra charge.
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Postby Aussie Claret » Thursday Jul 19, 2007 8:06 am

Yup, have them cracked and they all go in the mash together!
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Postby gibbocore » Thursday Jul 19, 2007 9:15 am

Cheers guy's.

So if the beer description say's they use roasted malts are they just being wanky?
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Postby Aussie Claret » Thursday Jul 19, 2007 11:22 am

Not at all, they are just describing the types of malt used.
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Postby gibbocore » Thursday Jul 19, 2007 11:36 am

Ok, now i'm confused.

I'f i'm doing a all grain, would i use some pale cracked grain and some kilned crystal grain?
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Postby Rysa » Thursday Jul 19, 2007 11:40 am

http://www.howtobrew.com/section2/chapter12-1.html

Palmer again!! Where would we be without his links.
There's a bit on roasted malts and what they are at the bottom of the page. :wink:
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Postby gibbocore » Thursday Jul 19, 2007 11:43 am

wicked, cheers, sorry to sound like a spazz.
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Postby Rysa » Thursday Jul 19, 2007 11:49 am

Nah, not at all. I'm only just starting to get my head round it.
There's heaps of useful reading in Palmer. Keep on reading up on it, the best way to get used to it.
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