What would you do?

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What would you do?

Postby rotten » Tuesday Jan 18, 2011 11:48 pm

I will (hopefully) come into posession of 2 kegs (legally of coarse)

I already have 1 X 30 ltr electric urn, + 1 X 55 ltr mashtun with a copper manifold.
My options, and costs are now numerous.
What would you do?

edit: very bad spelling
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Bum » Wednesday Jan 19, 2011 9:45 am

Tricky one really. Initial response would be to say weld them both into a double keggle since your tun is big enough but the urn would be on the small size to support double batches as a HLT, IMO. If you brew single batches then you could think about turning one into a tun and the other a keggle or (probably the road I'd go down) turn one into a HLT and the other a keggle.
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Re: What would you do?

Postby billybushcook » Wednesday Jan 19, 2011 10:42 am

yeh Wot E Said....

Definately use one as a 50l kettle, That way you can put copper coils in it as an Imersion chiller. (with mine, I can pitch 20Min after flame out)
Your 30L urn will not have the volume to have coils in with the boil (to sanitize it) & I suspect that it is very prone to boil overs any way?

I have 16m of 3/4" copper coils in my 50L kettle (keg) & it has plenty of head space left for the hot break to rise but not enough for a double batch.

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.......Yes the old garden tap has been replaced with a ball valve.........

I'm considering welding in a 6 or 8 inch section from another keg to give me the volume for doubles. Trouble is, then I would need another one for a HLT, another burner, Reg, gas bottle or manifold.........stuff it, I'l stick to singles for now.

The other one could be used for a direct fired mash tun for doing stepped mashes?

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Re: What would you do?

Postby Tipsy » Wednesday Jan 19, 2011 12:32 pm

You could use one as a boiler for a still
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Planner » Wednesday Jan 19, 2011 1:08 pm

rotten wrote:What would you do?


They make a great bbq/spit.

Or else when hoyt comes for the sleepover, load it onto his ute. Shepp is between Renmark & Wonthaggi :lol:
Will save me going out to do some "shopping".
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Re: What would you do?

Postby matr » Wednesday Jan 19, 2011 2:49 pm

If they are still serviceable you could always fill them with ummmm i dunno............. BEER maybe? :wink:
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Re: What would you do?

Postby rotten » Thursday Jan 20, 2011 1:23 pm

Thanks for the replies guys. It turns out I could only get one :cry: This guys brother wants to turn the other one into a compressor, how boring is that. So the decision is made for me really, it is to be a keggle.
So I will have a electric HLT, ice box mash tun, and a gas fired keggle 8)

Do empty kegs have any pressure before I go and blow myself up cutting the top out?
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Re: What would you do?

Postby bullfrog » Thursday Jan 20, 2011 2:46 pm

I should think you'd want to equalise the keg with atmospheric pressure before you go cutting. Never fiddled with a commercial keg before, do they have pressure-release valves like the cornelius variety?
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Re: What would you do?

Postby billybushcook » Thursday Jan 20, 2011 5:32 pm

bullfrog wrote: do they have pressure-release valves like the cornelius variety?


No they don't, just depress the ball that is in the top of the stem.
it is basically a check valve or clean break valve & will let the pressure out.

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Re: What would you do?

Postby rotten » Thursday Jan 20, 2011 8:08 pm

Thanks Mick
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Re: What would you do?

Postby drsmurto » Thursday Jan 20, 2011 8:42 pm

Putting the pillowcase to bed Rotten?

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Re: What would you do?

Postby rotten » Thursday Jan 20, 2011 10:11 pm

Thanks drsmurto.
2V isn't 3V no matter how much you wish it to be :lol:
Gotta love this caper, if only I could turn it into a job?? (and still make money) :)~
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Re: What would you do?

Postby billybushcook » Friday Jan 21, 2011 6:58 am

billybushcook wrote: just depress the ball that is in the top of the stem.
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I should have added,
You will find that it has heaps of pressure at first & you will not be able to actually depress the ball. Try burping it with a hammer first.

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Re: What would you do?

Postby drsmurto » Friday Jan 21, 2011 10:32 pm

You have 3 vessels.

An urn (HLT), an esky (mashtun) and a keg (kettle). Same setup as me.

No point denying it, you are a 3V brewer now.
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Trough Lolly » Saturday Jan 22, 2011 4:13 pm

drsmurto wrote:You have 3 vessels.

An urn (HLT), an esky (mashtun) and a keg (kettle). Same setup as me.

No point denying it, you are a 3V brewer now.


Aaaaah, I see....!
The ex techo in me was wondering how the hell you could brew anything with only 3 volts!! :lol: :oops:

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Re: What would you do?

Postby rotten » Saturday Jan 22, 2011 6:16 pm

drsmurto wrote:You have 3 vessels.

An urn (HLT), an esky (mashtun) and a keg (kettle). Same setup as me.

No point denying it, you are a 3V brewer now.


Didn't think I was denying it drsmurto. Have been 2v since I started AG, until soon.. Never did give biab a go. You guys did too good a job ages ago convincing me of 3V. So in essence all this is your fault :P :lol: :P
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Re: What would you do?

Postby drsmurto » Monday Jan 24, 2011 9:09 pm

The more people i can steer to 3V brewing and chilling the better the world will be.
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Fifey » Tuesday Apr 05, 2011 5:45 pm

How is multiple vessel superior to BIAB (assuming you want people to convert to that specifically)? That reads a little abrupt, but I'm only curious.
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Re: What would you do?

Postby rotten » Saturday Apr 09, 2011 10:22 pm

I'm sure drsmurto was more tongue in cheek than anything. BIAB was still young (last year) when I started, I chose to pursue 3V because I likes it. :)~ . BIABers are winning comps and the like, the proof is in the pudding. BIAB was still seen as a way to get started in AG when I first went AG, as I was sure I was in for the long haul, I spent the few extra $ to go 3V.

In the end you need to do whats best for you. IMHO and all that.
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Edit: hole is cut in top of keggle now, will order weldless ball valve next week. Also ordering a solar pump 8)
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Re: What would you do?

Postby drsmurto » Wednesday Apr 13, 2011 10:35 am

Fifey wrote:How is multiple vessel superior to BIAB (assuming you want people to convert to that specifically)? That reads a little abrupt, but I'm only curious.


I thought you had been here long enough to get my dry sense of humour.... :lol:

I batch sparge and have brewing mates referring to me as one of those filthy batch spargers..... :D

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