The great Hoegaarden clone - in progress

[hoohaaman]

Not simple Danzar.all the hard work you put in to make this brew.

Cheers

The unwashed masses love it as well.
What more ,the chicks like it

[Tadge]

Danzar,

Mate you are a champ. I have JUST tried mine, Its been in the bottle for a couple of months now.
Bloody fantastic!!!, It does not quite taste the same as the original but I did modify it a bit, I'm no beer conisuer but I know what I like!!
Mine ended up being 5.5%alc so not a quaffer by any means but very tasty, only a hint of the lemon and coriander.
Thanks all for the recipe!

Cheers

Tadge

[Danzar]

Danzar,

Mate you are a champ. I have JUST tried mine, Its been in the bottle for a couple of months now.
Bloody fantastic!!!, It does not quite taste the same as the original but I did modify it a bit, I'm no beer conisuer but I know what I like!!
Mine ended up being 5.5%alc so not a quaffer by any means but very tasty, only a hint of the lemon and coriander.
Thanks all for the recipe!

Cheers

Tadge

Brilliant!

All it needs is a little fine tuning and that should be done on the coriander/orange. Just use that wit yeast and you can't go wrong.

[qikdatute]

John from grain and grape has just updated their website to include the orange rind for use in this recipe:

http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/product ... ts_id=8217

Enjoy!!

[rwh]

Hmm... server seems pretty rooted right now. We do get to find out what it's running tho.

Apache/2.0.54 (Fedora) Server at http://www.grainandgrape.com.au Port 80

[Oliver]

Well and truly rooted.

I hate it when that happens.



Oliver

[Noodles]

I've been drinking a fair bit of Hoegaarden recently and I'm very keen to try this clone. I've just been to the G&G site and costed the ingredients (for the recipe in the original post) which came to $69.95 plus postage (which I assume will be about $15-$20).

Now here's my question, is the clone that good? Is it $90 worth? Or should I be looking for a cheaper version?

[rwh]

Hey Noodles, maybe try the simpler version which was the starting point for this recipe, should cost you about $30. It's one of my most popular brews.

Pixelboy's Wheat

My fav Wheat/Hoegaarden requires some fiddling but it's easy mate!

1. Thomas Coopers Brewmaster Selection WHEAT BEER
2. Thomas Coopers Wheat Extract 1.5kg
3. Rind from 2 Oranges
4. 15gms (one pack) Corriander Seeds

Method

1. Take the rind of the Oranges being careful not to get any of the pith (soft white part). You can use a fine cheese grater.
2. Crush the corriander seeds
3. Empty contents of the Malt Wheat Extract, the orange rind and crushed corriander seeds into LARGE clean saucepan and add a litre or two of water. Stir and bring to boil. Reduce heat and simmer, stiring occasionally, for 20mins.
4. Strain contents into a sterilised fermenter with the contents of the beer can.
5. Top up with cold water (or hot) to 23litres stiring well trying to get it to about 22c-26c then pitch yeast.
6. Give it 2 weeks @ 20c and rack or bottle.

Its a ripper! Was my 3rd brew and I havent matched it yet. Ill be doing exactly the same when I return from NZ in a fortnight.

Trust me.. Its not that hard and it will taste great.

[Noodles]

Cheers rwh, sounds good. Do you think it would be worth ordering the dried orange rind? The reason I ask is that i've done a beer with normal orange rind before and it had zero head, which I put down to the oil in the orange peel.

[rwh]

Yes, I reckon it is worth it, you're right about the head retention, and it's also heaps easier. Go 15g of the bitter peel.

[pixelboy]

You can just leave the orange out overnight on some paper towel. The oils should soak into the paper.

Well thats how im going to do another batch this weekend

Oh Noodles.. add 15-20gms or so SAAZ to that recipie. Its too sweet without it.

[DJ]

rwh,
did you use SAFwheat K-97 yeast for that recipie above???

[Noodles]

Thanks everyone, i'll give it a try this weekend. Bottling a Southern Lager wetpak this weekend too.

[rwh]

did you use SAFwheat K-97 yeast for that recipie above???

The yeast that's under the lid is a K-97 as far as I know, so you might as well just use that.

See: http://www.homebrewandbeer.com/forum/vi ... .php?t=571

[DJ]

I may as well!

Thankyou kind sir.

[timmy]

I tried one of these last week after about 3 weeks in the bottle. It was very nice, but the bitterness was very noticable. I'm assuming that it should mellow over time, but has anyone else noticed it?

I pretty much followed the updated recipe to the letter.

Cheers,

Tim

[Danzar]

I've been drinking a fair bit of Hoegaarden recently and I'm very keen to try this clone. I've just been to the G&G site and costed the ingredients (for the recipe in the original post) which came to $69.95 plus postage (which I assume will be about $15-$20).

Now here's my question, is the clone that good? Is it $90 worth? Or should I be looking for a cheaper version?

That can't be right. Here are my costings (from my local):

Kit - $15.95
Malt - $11
Wheat - $3.50
Coriander - $2.50 - supermarket
Peel - $4 - Grain and Grape
Wheat malt - $3
Hops (x2) - $5
Yeast - $15 (*NB* this looks like it will blow your cost out but you make 4-6 starters, which means you can spread this yeast over 4-6 brews).

TOTAL: $59.95 including full yeast cost, so effective cost is actually around $48 or so. You've probably had to purchase dried malt etc in higher amounts above the recipe, so you should factor that in as an offset against future brews.

Postage is a bummer though - still, it shouldn't be as high as you think. Try and source the bulkier ingredients from your local, then order the yeast and peel from G & G. Postage would only be about $7 o $8 then, thereby giving you a brew of around $55 in total - and yep, it's woth it. You need that liquid yeast and dried peel - makes all the difference.

Cheers Noodles....

[Danzar]

I tried one of these last week after about 3 weeks in the bottle. It was very nice, but the bitterness was very noticable. I'm assuming that it should mellow over time, but has anyone else noticed it?

I pretty much followed the updated recipe to the letter.

Cheers,

Tim

It will mellow. The taste changes quite rapidly. Best drunk at around 6-8 weeks.

[Danzar]

You can just leave the orange out overnight on some paper towel. The oils should soak into the paper.

Well thats how im going to do another batch this weekend

Oh Noodles.. add 15-20gms or so SAAZ to that recipie. Its too sweet without it.

Exactly!

[Noodles]

Kit - $15.95
Malt - $11
Wheat - $3.50
Coriander - $2.50 - supermarket
Peel - $4 - Grain and Grape
Wheat malt - $3
Hops (x2) - $5
Yeast - $15 (*NB* this looks like it will blow your cost out but you make 4-6 starters, which means you can spread this yeast over 4-6 brews).

TOTAL: $59.95 including full yeast cost, so effective cost is actually around $48 or so. You've probably had to purchase dried malt etc in higher amounts above the recipe, so you should factor that in as an offset against future brews.

Postage is a bummer though - still, it shouldn't be as high as you think. Try and source the bulkier ingredients from your local, then order the yeast and peel from G & G. Postage would only be about $7 o $8 then, thereby giving you a brew of around $55 in total - and yep, it's woth it. You need that liquid yeast and dried peel - makes all the difference.

Cheers Noodles....

The prices you've quoted look fairly similar to what I priced except for the kit (I priced a 3kg esb). Unfortunately my local is over 200kms away, so I generally just brew k&k unless I order wetpaks from TCB. You are right about the quantities, there would be some left overs, but it's still a pricey brew. I'll give the cheaper version a go and see what happens.