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Coopers Pale Ale
Posted: Friday May 15, 2009 4:22 pm
by pmclaren11
Hello,
This is my first post here, but I have been getting great advice so thank you.
My 2nd brew is nearing completion. I brewed a Coopers Pale Ale using the brew enhancer and a SafAle yeast.
I have been taking readings and tasting as I go (how can you resist!), however I'm finding it tastes very yeasty.
Is this normal because it is young? It has fermented at about 18-20 steadily.
Will this taste subside after a while?
Thanks,
Paul.
Re: Coopers Pale Ale
Posted: Friday May 15, 2009 4:44 pm
by warra48
Are you sure it is a yeasty taste, and not just maltiness?
After all, most Aus beers are distinctly lacking in malt flavour, so most megaswill drinkers are not used to the flavour profile of better homebrews, or better craft beers.
Yes, giving a brew time in bottle will help to settle it down, and smooth things out.
Re: Coopers Pale Ale
Posted: Friday May 15, 2009 7:45 pm
by chadjaja
I find the coopers pale ale/BE2 combo reaches the point where its good at 3 months in the bottle if that helps you any.
Re: Coopers Pale Ale
Posted: Monday May 18, 2009 12:45 pm
by billybushcook
PM 11
Iv'e been doing CPA, BE2 for about the last 12 mnths or so,(Coopers lager before that) mostly using kit yeast & now using Safale.
(I can't pick the difference) I just hope the difference is in consistency as that is what I want to improve.
If your'e temps are consistant & stable, it should taste good & be carbonated after 2 -3 weeks in the bottle, no doubt it will improve a bit more with age, but as a general rule, if it is gonna be a great beer, it will be a good beer @ 2 - 3 weeks if kept at the right temp once bottled.
Edit:- I just read back through your post & it reads as if you are talking about tasting the beer before it has been bottled????
It will taste nothing like this once bottled, carbonated & matured!!
Tasting @ bottling is only a rough (very rough)estimate of whether it gonna be a good one or a bad one.
Cheers, Mick.
Re: Coopers Pale Ale
Posted: Wednesday May 27, 2009 8:30 pm
by catpaw brewing
Fellow Pale Ale lovers.
I've put down over 30 CPA batches, tweaking the recipe to provide me and my brew buddy with our perfect flavour profile, which incidently isn't an attempt to match the commercial equivalent. Whilst we experiment and try a variety of other styles, every 2nd batch we return to is a CPA, because we think it's the best ever.
What we have settled on is:
1.7kg can of Coopers Aussie Ale
Coopers Brew enhancer 2
250g light dry malt
25g Hallertau flowers (or 1 plug, or 12g pellets if flowers not available) steeped for 30m and added when pitching
coopers ale yeast from can, preactivated with warm water & teaspoon sugar 30m in advance of pitching
pitch at 24 deg then drop fermentation to 19-20 deg C for 6-7 days ( I believe at this temperature both lager and ale yeast are active and gives longer ferment with less pronounced ester notes)
Re: Coopers Pale Ale
Posted: Thursday May 28, 2009 8:41 am
by billybushcook
I did a CPA a few weeks back with some pale crystal steeped & 12g Cascade pellets for the last 6 Mins of the boil.
Tasted good at bottling, Couldn't wait to try it so I opened a bottle last night (only 8 days old) & is looking very good, after doing one the same way with PoR it is the first one I can actually notice the hops in, bit of a dirty hop taste which I hope will settle over time but had a crisp, bitter note to it aswell!
I mentioned in another thread that I had recently changed from kit yeast to using S-04 & S-05 with absolutly no noticable difference.
I still think that the Coopers yeast strain is a good one, havn't had the same results with other kit yeasts though.
Mick.
Re: Coopers Pale Ale
Posted: Thursday May 28, 2009 8:37 pm
by gunna
G'day Mick - Have you tried the yeast from the commercial CPA ? and if so have you noticed a difference in taste
Cheers
Re: Coopers Pale Ale
Posted: Thursday May 28, 2009 9:42 pm
by billybushcook
No I havn't yet Gunna,
I did farm some off three largies a few weeks back & it is still sitting in the fridge, been playing with the two Safale yeasts instead.
It (the store bought CPA) didn't seem to flock out as well as the kit stuff, it seems to be more "loose & mushy" looking than my HB bottles & I wasn't that keen on the beer either (a bit too much Hop aroma &/or taste).
I probably should give it a try???
Cheers, Mick.
Re: Coopers Pale Ale
Posted: Thursday May 28, 2009 9:59 pm
by Bizier
Hello pmclaren11
I refer you to Mr Palmer:
" It should taste like beer even though it may taste a bit yeasty."
http://www.howtobrew.com/appendices/appendixA.html
I would say that it is on course.
Re: Coopers Pale Ale
Posted: Friday May 29, 2009 10:39 pm
by gunna
Mick - I like the store bought CPA and thats why I have tried it - will let you know how this brew go's. As far as consistancy in brewing , I've not achieved it yet but there are so many variables to worry about !!
Good luck in your quest
Cheers