best brew

[speedie]

Is the yeast you used an abbey strain
I don’t have the wyeast list with me
Sounds like a really intense beer and @ 1077 og must have finished around 7.5 plus% a/v
They used to be my session type of beers but now as older age creeps on it is harder to fire up the next day hence the step back to 4.8%ers

Did you manage too stash some bottles away for extended conditioning if you have you will be surprised at how different flavor profiles develop with this type of brew
As interest did you prime with dextrose or some other medium
Thankyou for your post

[Bum]

I don’t have the wyeast list with me

Welcome to the internet.

you will be surprised at how different flavor profiles develop with this type of brew

No he won't because this isn't his first brew.

[bullfrog]

Also, he can't even see your questions, let alone answer them, as he has already mentioned that he has you on ignore.

[chadjaja]

LOL

I can only imagine what else was posted but I've learnt tabs are great for finding info whilst other pages are open Novice internet users can learn a lot from internet experts like myself

Should of submitted this brew in VICBREW rather than my other Belgians and doppelbock. ahhhh hindsight and a bit of extra conditioning.

I'm going to give Warra's middy a try soon, cheers mate for the recipe and tips

[speedie]

so did you put any bottles away for long storeage?

[drsmurto]

Would any of you gun brewers be willing to post your best brew formulas
So we can all have ago at them
Beersmith or not!
This will put the cat amongst the pigeons
Or brew from swill!
speedie
ps golden ale exculed

Why is my golden ale excluded? Do you have all the variations of that recipe?

[speedie]

supply your final! most tweaked the one you will brew over and over recipe
and i will brew it to your guide lines to the enth degree
cheers dr
speedie

[bullfrog]

so did you put any bottles away for long storeage?

You keep posing questions of somebody who has blatantly stated that they have you on ignore. He cannot see anything that you post.

[chadjaja]

I can see when you quote people though Bullfrog AND

IN BOTH POSTS I state that I bottled half the batch

I must say though that the bottle conditioned versions are out doing the kegged versions at the moment. I kegged 10L's of it and bottles the rest just for comparison. Think I'll bottle the entire batch next time.

And I agree with the good Dr. He has many variations and myself like others have taken his original recipe and modified it ourselves as well over time giving back feedback when we do like I did with my pacman variation.

[squirt in the turns]

Would any of you gun brewers be willing to post your best brew formulas
So we can all have ago at them
Beersmith or not!
This will put the cat amongst the pigeons
Or brew from swill!
speedie
ps golden ale exculed

Why is my golden ale excluded? Do you have all the variations of that recipe?

drsmurto, why do you assume that it's YOUR golden ale that is referred to here, hmm?

Someone, somewhere must have brewed an original golden ale recipe, completely uninfluenced by this mighty brew? *Looks around scratching head* No one? DSGA has obliterated the competition!

[earle]

supply your final! most tweaked the one you will brew over and over recipe
and i will brew it to your guide lines to the enth degree
cheers dr
speedie

I'm guessing we'll have to wait many years until doc dies to get the final most tweaked recipe.
Or I suppose we could actually read the relevant threads and comments and choose a recipe??

[bullfrog]

Someone, somewhere must have brewed an original golden ale recipe, completely uninfluenced by this mighty brew? *Looks around scratching head* No one? DSGA has obliterated the competition!

I actually do have a house Golden Ale that was uninfluenced by the good Doctor's recipe. I currently have my first ever DSGA in primary so that I can see how mine measures up against, but mine was just me buying ingredients on a whim when I was in the LHBS. Much more time and thought has gone into the Doc's brew so I'm sure it will come out the winner.

[SuperBroo]

i made my owned golden ale, just loosely based on the docs recipe...

i removed 10 grams of base malt from his recipe, and now its mine, and i'll take all the credit


my mates love the stuff, and so do I,
(i do pass on the credit to the doc each time when asked what its made of)

[earle]

i removed 10 grams of base malt from his recipe, and now its mine, and i'll take all the credit

Aaah, reduced alcohol golden ale.

[Bum]

Good point, Earl. You'd be better served to add 10gms instead like in my copyrighted recipe, Grog. Golden Rocketfuel.

(I don't actually do this)

[warra48]

I'm sure DrS' Golden Ale, in whatever form it takes, deserves a very very honourable mention in any best brew discussion. It's been brewed by many brewers, both in AG and partial etc form, and it gets the thumbs up from all concerned, both on this and other forums.

DrS certainly has my respect in continuing to tweak his favourite recipes to reach his nirvana with those brews.

Having said that, I confess I've never brewed it. JSGA is not one of my favourite beers. I just do not like Amarillo hops, but that's just my personal taste. However, many brewers seem to rave over the hop. I have the same feeling about Nelson Sauvin. Maybe each of these hops remind me too much of my most disliked white wine, which is Sauvignon Blanc. Give me a fresh young Riesling in it's first year or so, or a well aged Riesling (8 years up), or a 10 to 15 years old Hunter Semillon, and you will win me.

I guess that's the beauty of homebrewing, you can brew to your personal taste, and no one is there to tell you it's "wrong", "unbalanced", "too much body", "too thin", "too hoppy", "too much or too little alcohol", "too malty", "too bitter", etc etc. Unless you brew for competitions, which is something I've not done to date.

[chadjaja]

Too right Warra, no use make medal wining beer you don't actually like. Medals are just a bonus.

After all my problems bottling it from keg my doppelbock got 8th at Vicbrew but only 5pts separated me and 6th so I'm not too upset. Didn't expect to do any better considering it was my first time using a lager yeast and its the first doppelbock I made up using my own thoughts on what it should be. Will be interested to see the notes on where they thought it went wrong and no doubt carbonation will be on the list. Still on tap here its what I want out of a doppelbock

I've used DSGA as a starting base and experimented slightly with the grain bill, hops and yeast to make beers more suited to my taste. It also accelerates the learning process and Doc made it easier from the start. I'm a tinkerer and more often than not I'll make a small change to each successful recipe I have come up with.

As the guys pointed out when is a recipe not your recipe? I might slightly change the grain bill but if I use a diff yeast, different hops varietys at different amounts etc is it really still mine? I say it is

Its just always better to start with a solid base of something that you know works, taste it, hone it to your tastes and go from there.

[Bum]

As the guys pointed out when is a recipe not your recipe?

A similar (but relevant given the context) question is "when is a golden ale no longer a golden ale?" Rye and Chinook?! Time to stop resting on your laurels and give the poor beer a new name, DrS!

[speedie]

Would you please post the most revered ale in Geoff and Ollies Site?

Is it the use of all those caramel type malts that make it so desirable or maybe the ale yeast that has been pushed towards the top end of ester production?

So good DR if you would be so kind as to post this most elite brew formula I would be willing to push it into upper liter limits to see if it is well received in the west

Waiting with baited breath
Speedie

Ps no need to scale it as I have a pencil and calculator on hand
Pps no snide comments from the bleachers please!!!!

[Zuma]

1 can Cascade Mahogany Porter
1kg DDME or Dark malt liquid
500gm yellowbox honey
15gm Cascade hops dry hopped

This one had so many ripper reviews that I had to give it ago but gee I gotta say I was disappointed after trying them at the 4 weeks stage.

Not sure as to why, probably just not my cup of tea (hophead).

I'm about to try another now after 3-4 months in the bottle.

Hoping that it's improved.