Pilsner Kits, yeast?

[Wheatman]

Hello self brewers,

Just joined up to the forum as I found the debates and information here pertaining to the greatest liquid resource in the universe very impresive indeed.

As my first pitch into this forum I was wondering if anyone out there steeped in the wisdom of what goes into ready made brew kits could tell me is the yeast sold with most Pilsner kits of the low temp ferment type or the typical kind place in kits generally?

Look forward to the responses.

Wheatman.

[Polar]

G'day Wheatman
from reading the forum - Coopers pilsner comes with saflager yeast and is one of the only ones that does.
Great to see another Canberran brewing

Richard

[silkworm]

Saflarger as far a I understand...
Just bottled a coopers Pilsner and it is an awesome drop.
This one would have to be my favourite so far in the Pilsner range (Have tried the ESB and i've only tried them once so far without much modification other than hops).
Have fun with this one its a ripper.

Silk

[Oliver]

As my first pitch into this forum ...

... No pun intended?!

Yes, the Cooper's Pilsner is a lager yeast, probably Saflager.

Gold Rush also comes with a lager yeast, but it's a terribly small sachet (5g from memory).

I can't comment on any others.

Oliver

[Antsvb]

Morgans (export range) Golden Saaz Pilsener has an ale yeast.

[two headed brewer]

The Country Brewer here is Sydney has the Wal's range, which includes a Pilsener. I did this recently(comes with a lager yeast) and was very impressed with the hop level. Bit disconcerting when you open the tin to see a large green mess on top, but it works a treat and the closest I've found to a real Pilsener straight from the tin. It is one to leave for a bit as it has a good bite when young! Hop heads will like it.
They do mail orders, but for those in Sydney it's a good one to try.
Bally

[kelp]

Gday brewers, Just joined up in the last day or so and this is my first post. Did a Coopers Pilsener a couple of months ago and after trying it early after bottling I was impressed and Im going to do another couple of batches of it this week. I used saflager 34/70 which I cultured from an ESB Bavarian lager kit I made and will use it again for the upcoming bathes as I have some sitting in my fridge. My question is , is the Saflager that comes with this kit the S23 or the S34/70.

[Oliver]

That's a very good question, and one to which I don't have the answer.

Maybe someone else can help??

Oliver

[Dogger Dan]

Its the stinky one.

One has no H2S supposedly, the other does. The kit comes with the stinky one.

Can't keep the two straight numerically though

Dogger

[kelp]

Its the stinky one.

One has no H2S supposedly, the other does. The kit comes with the stinky one.

Can't keep the two straight numerically though

Dogger

Thanks for that Dogger, but as far as I know all true lager yeasts give off that smell during fermentation.

[Guest]

Just made up my first batch of Coopers Pilsener and I will be using the yeast that came with the kit. Made up a starter 3 hours ago from the S34/70 I had in the fridge , got it going nicely ready to put in the fermenter, had a small taste and its very bitter , wont risk it so threw it out. Will be using the 2 packets though [14 grams] and then taking a litre out of it when she,s working away tomorrow for the next batch.

[kelp]

Just made up my first batch of Coopers Pilsener and I will be using the yeast that came with the kit. Made up a starter 3 hours ago from the S34/70 I had in the fridge , got it going nicely ready to put in the fermenter, had a small taste and its very bitter , wont risk it so threw it out. Will be using the 2 packets though [14 grams] and then taking a litre out of it when she,s working away tomorrow for the next batch.

Sorry forgot to log in, but this post is by me not Guest.

[NTRabbit]

Thanks for that Dogger, but as far as I know all true lager yeasts give off that smell during fermentation.

Actually, the Coopers Bavarian Lager i brewed with the kit yeast had the distinct H2S smell emanating from the airlock, but all 3 brews I've made with S-23 sachets have not, including the two currently in progress.

[Tony]

This calls for an experiment:

3 x fermenters
3 x bavarian lager/pilsener kits
1x supplied yeast, 1x S23, 1xS34-70

Brew away and compare aromas and final beer, bearing in mind that S34-70 is supposed to be more tolerant of higher temps with regard to H2S production and estery beer.

I'd be game, but I've only got 2 fermenters, and Brisbane's fresh out of lager weather

Tony

[NTRabbit]

I'd be game, but I've only got 2 fermenters, and Brisbane's fresh out of lager weather

Tony

Even Adelaide has hit a warm spot, the last couple of days had my bock and pilsener encroaching on 20*C

[kelp]

Put down a pilsener today and will be doing another one tomorrow 120km north of Brisbane with temp in low to mid 20,s.
Wouldnt be doing them unless they are sitting in a fermentation fridge at 12-14deg.
Tony , I can assure you the 34/70 stinks during fermentation , did one not long ago and when I opened the fridge door it hits you. Checked on the Pilsener a little while ago and thats starting to pong as well. Used the S23 a few months ago and cant remember if it smelled.

[stevem]

I have a bock fermenting at the moment with Saflager W-34/70 yeast. The fermentation is just kicking in nicely and it has a slight H2S smell so far. Not an in your face overpowering smell yet but it is there.
Cheers
Steve

[Tony]

W-34/70 - that's the correct name, of course. I thought it sounded too much like an oil weight.

Manage not to get oil and yeast confused when brewing, so must be doing something right

Tony