Now are there many Kiwi or Kiwi ex pats on this board?
There is a brewery in Christchurch called the Dux DeLux that make a particularly fine pale ale... I cant remember the taste very well but Lousie describes it as "A very solid pale ale" (not much help!

So what I am looking to do is to make a extract with some grain pale ale that is not heavily hop driven (like Little creatures) but is quite "Grainy"...
anyone got any good extract+grain recipes they wish to share?