California common

JaCk_SpArRoW · Post by **JaCk_SpArRoW** » Friday Jan 06, 2006 8:57 am

3.8 kg Ale Malt
1.5 kg Pils Malt
250g Victory Malt
250g Cara Red
250g Crystal malt

Any thoughts would be appreciated...maybe toasting some base malt as well?

grabman · Post by **grabman** » Friday Jan 06, 2006 10:15 am

what yeast and hops would you suggest with this one JaCk

MHD · Post by **MHD** » Friday Jan 06, 2006 10:48 am

you've got a full AG set up then Jack?? cool!

JaCk_SpArRoW · Post by **JaCk_SpArRoW** » Friday Jan 06, 2006 10:50 am

No I dont, this was just a recipe I found & thought it might benefit someone....im still comepletely new to all this so I have no idea what hops or yeast to use

JaCk_SpArRoW · Post by **JaCk_SpArRoW** » Friday Jan 06, 2006 12:11 pm

Got some more info for that recipe

Btitish bitter - fuggles or challenger finished with EKG - any liquid brit yeast or SO4
APA - cascade finished with amarillo - wyeast 1056 or Saf 056.
German Beer - Herschbruker or other German noble hop. Any liquid german yeast

Hope this helps

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Friday Jan 06, 2006 7:21 pm

Captain,

I like the Cascade and Amarillo good luck getting them. I think San Fran Lager yeast brewed at warm temps (ale temp)

Dogger

yardglass · Post by **yardglass** » Friday Jan 06, 2006 8:19 pm

Dogger,
Cascade is pretty common, but i've never seen Amarillo up my way.

JaCk_SpArRoW,
would that be a sample recipe off Beersmith ?
db directed me to it, awesome tool for anyone trying to better their brews.

cheers
yardy

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Saturday Jan 07, 2006 12:53 am

Yep,

I like Beer Smith to.

Dogger

kurtz · Post by **kurtz** » Saturday Jan 07, 2006 4:38 pm

Dogger,
Cascade is pretty common, but i've never seen Amarillo up my way.

Have a James Squire Golden Ale by pref on tap, loaded with Amarillo, an interesting hop and one that is hard to get as it is only grown on one farm.

K

yardglass · Post by **yardglass** » Saturday Jan 07, 2006 7:39 pm

K,
until Dan the man Murphy hit town we couldn't get it in a bottle let alone on tap.

where are they grown btw ?

yard

Hrundi V Bakshi · Post by **Hrundi V Bakshi** » Sunday Jan 08, 2006 10:50 pm

California Common or "Steam Beer" is all about the Northern Brewer hop. Right the way thru, from bitterring to aroma. Think of it as a showcase for the alround woody bittering flavour aroma hop. Yeast at warm lager (15Â°C) or cool ale (18Â°C) is also necessary. Wonderful style it is being, indeed!

JaCk_SpArRoW · Post by **JaCk_SpArRoW** » Monday Jan 09, 2006 6:55 am

JaCk_SpArRoW,
would that be a sample recipe off Beersmith ?
db directed me to it, awesome tool for anyone trying to better their brews.

No I think this recipe was from AussieHomeBrewer website

Antsvb · Post by **Antsvb** » Monday Jan 09, 2006 12:03 pm

Pretty sure I can get some Amarillo here. Was at a new (for me at least) HBS the other day and noticed some.

JaCk_SpArRoW · Post by **JaCk_SpArRoW** » Monday Jan 09, 2006 12:06 pm

Antsvb wrote:Pretty sure I can get some Amarillo here. Was at a new (for me at least) HBS the other day and noticed some.

Maybe you should buy it all& become a distributor!

mprilla · Post by **mprilla** » Monday Jan 09, 2006 2:59 pm

You can find good recipes and bad recipes for CA common beer here.

http://hbd.org/cgi-bin/recipator/recipes?group=41

Keep in mind the defining thing about this kind of beer is the yeast used and at specific temps. White Labs and Wyeast sell good liquid yeasts for steam beer.

Ca common is in other ways a varied beer since at it's heart it is a lager fermeted a slightly higher than lager temps. If you don't use the real steam beer strains of yeast and try that with a regular lager yeast I am told the result is terrible. Alternatly you can use a lager like ale yeast to simulate it.

Mike

JaCk_SpArRoW · Post by **JaCk_SpArRoW** » Monday Jan 09, 2006 3:04 pm

mprilla wrote:You can find good recipes and bad recipes for CA common beer here.

http://hbd.org/cgi-bin/recipator/recipes?group=41

Keep in mind the defining thing about this kind of beer is the yeast used and at specific temps. White Labs and Wyeast sell good liquid yeasts for steam beer.

Ca common is in other ways a varied beer since at it's heart it is a lager fermeted a slightly higher than lager temps. If you don't use the real steam beer strains of yeast and try that with a regular lager yeast I am told the result is terrible. Alternatly you can use a lager like ale yeast to simulate it.

Mike

Ok so is there some alternative to creating this kind of strain simply by using extracts etc?....im not big on wheat or all grain brewing yet but would love to know if there is a quicker alternative out there for this?

mprilla · Post by **mprilla** » Monday Jan 09, 2006 3:12 pm

I have two companies to choose from to buy a strain of this yeast in the USA are you telling me that no company is selling liquid yeasts of specific strains in your aria? Even by mail order? I am sure you can get it if you look around.

JaCk_SpArRoW · Post by **JaCk_SpArRoW** » Monday Jan 09, 2006 3:17 pm

I have two companies to choose from to buy a strain of this yeast in the USA are you telling me that no company is selling liquid yeasts of specific strains in your aria? Even by mail order? I am sure you can get it if you look around.

Im sure there are, in fact my local HBS would stock it, I just wasnt sure if there was an easy way around it for the time being until I get up to speed with the whole brewing world!...just so you know, I only started on Dec 18 & waiting to taste test my very first brew!

mprilla · Post by **mprilla** » Monday Jan 09, 2006 3:37 pm

JaCk_SpArRoW wrote:Im sure there are, in fact my local HBS would stock it, I just wasnt sure if there was an easy way around it for the time being until I get up to speed with the whole brewing world!...just so you know, I only started on Dec 18 & waiting to taste test my very first brew!

The easy way in war gets people killed for nothing. The easy way in busness loses money or gets the government to come for you. The easy way in Brewing produces a bad product. Your local supply shop should have a strain of CA common type yeast and that is the right way to do this. Don't do things other than the right way and you won't have any problems. Cut corners and skip steps and try to save money and you will have problems. There is a right way, the wrong way and the Army way. Do things the right way and you won't have any problems. If you don't know the right way then find it out by getting a new modern homebrewing book published in the 21 st century and learn the right way.

JaCk_SpArRoW · Post by **JaCk_SpArRoW** » Monday Jan 09, 2006 3:40 pm

mprilla wrote:
JaCk_SpArRoW wrote:Im sure there are, in fact my local HBS would stock it, I just wasnt sure if there was an easy way around it for the time being until I get up to speed with the whole brewing world!...just so you know, I only started on Dec 18 & waiting to taste test my very first brew!
The easy way in war gets people killed for nothing. The easy way in busness loses money or gets the government to come for you. The easy way in Brewing produces a bad product. Your local supply shop should have a strain of CA common type yeast and that is the right way to do this. Don't do things other than the right way and you won't have any problems. Cut corners and skip steps and try to save money and you will have problems. There is a right way, the wrong way and the Army way. Do things the right way and you won't have any problems. If you don't know the right way then find it out by getting a new modern homebrewing book published in the 21 st century and learn the right way.

Well im sure I will learn the right way, as I have a local brewers club I'll be going to...im sure you've heard of one of the members...Dr K or Kurtz?...im sure he knows the right way!...and Im sure he doesnt use books!