Strong milk stout

[melbourne man]

i was thinking maybe a can of muntons export stout, brecraft #30 milk stout booster, 500g lactose, 1kg dextrose and using safale yeast.
i reckon it will be about 8%
will this much dextrose ruin it or will it work well to get a nice creamy, thick, rich, strong stout?

[bkmad]

G'day mate, I made an awesome stout a few years ago that went something like this:
2x cans of goldrush stout
0.5kg LME
0.5kg dextrose
0.5kg lactose
2x Hallertau hop bags steeped.

From memory it came out around 7.5 to 8 %ish and was thick and smooth like you describe.
You could sub 2 cans of muntons (or brewcraft as they're the same) for the brand I used.

As for your recipe, it looks good but I think the brewcraft milk stout booster will probably have lactose in it as well so you might be overdoing the lactose a bit. Also if you want a richer thicker stout you might want to sub some LME in place of some of the dextrose.
Cheers
BK

[melbourne man]

what type of yeast did you use and what was the total volume?
is LME light malt extract or liquid malt extract.
how did you add the hops?
would this work?
3kg muntons imperial stout
0.5kg dextrose
0.5kg light dry malt extract
0.5kg lactose
hops
safale yeast

filled to 20L

[bkmad]

I just used both the yeasts from the cans

LME = liquid malt extract

That recipe of yours looks pretty damn good... you're giving me ideas now. I might have to make my old recipe for old times sake...

[Oliver]

As bkmad said, I think the milk stout booster *and* the lactose would be a bit much. 500g lactose on its own might also be a bit much, too.

The 3.5 kilos of malt is going to leave you with a fair bit of residual sweetness anyway, so another 500g of unfermentable sugar on top of that is going to give you a very, very sweet beer.

Thoughts anyone?

Oliver

[bkmad]

"another 500g of unfermentable sugar on top of that is going to give you a very, very sweet beer"

Hmm maybe, but not necessarily. Lactose isn't all that sweet and I find it adds more body than anything. With my recipe I was going with double the bitterness (2 cans) which probably helped offset the sweetness too. I don't know anything about the muntons kit, but if its true to style it should be fairly high bitterness which should go some way to offse the sweetness.

It might be safer to halve the lactose and then up the amount in later recipes if more sweetness is required.

Cheers
BK

[Oliver]

It might be safer to halve the lactose and then up the amount in later recipes if more sweetness is required.

I'd definitely agree with this.

My point about "another 500g of unfermentable sugar on top of that is going to give you a very, very sweet beer" was that you'd probably already have a pretty sweet (and quite syrupy) beer with 3.5kg malt, and 500g lactose might tip it over the edge.

Cheers,

Oliver

[bkmad]

Oh and for a truly monsterous stout try this one:
http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/BeerOTM ... ersIRS.htm

I made one last year according to the enhanced kit recipe listed and still have a few left. It is amazingly thick and smooth.