Ditto. It has never let me down.NTRabbit wrote:Filling to the top and leaving only the space made by the vacating bottle filler is how I've always done it.
Cheers,
Greg
Bottling question
For christ sake your bloody right NTR!!..... cobberNTRabbit wrote:Lessen the aggro people, he's a beginner who just asked a simple question!
My point was that just because you've done something the same way for decades & it seems to be working doesn't mean that there is not better ways of doing things. I have mates who have been brewing for years, who laugh at me & my fermentation fridge, & love the results they get from fermenting at temperatures as high as 28c.
Brewing is a science... maybe not rocket science, but a science none the less. & your an idiot if you disagree with this fact.
I visit these types of site's as one way of hopefully learning new things, & in an effort to further my brewing knowledge. & I like a good debate if it teaches me or someone else something.
I guess there's two types brewers - People who are happy dumping their can of goo into the fermentor & following the Coopers instructions to a T. & then there's the people who look at brewing as the science that it is & try new idea's in an effort to improve their craft.
Sadly the 2nd type of brewer seems to be few & far between on this particular site these days.
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Point proven morgs.morgs wrote:Brewing might be a science but filling a bottle isn't that hard.
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It hadn't really occurred to me before, but actually, it probably does make a difference how full the bottle is, but not the difference between a 1cm gap and a 3cm gap.
There's a little observation about carbonation in "Complete Joy" claiming that a bigger gap results in more carbonation, and that a smaller gap results in less. The author (
total name blank), in spite of having a physics degree, confesses that he doesn't have any proven justification, it's just what he reckons.
Anyway, back to the preferably-not-rocket-science of bottling a MSB two-row + saaz aroma. Smells FANTASTIC.
Tom
There's a little observation about carbonation in "Complete Joy" claiming that a bigger gap results in more carbonation, and that a smaller gap results in less. The author (
total name blank), in spite of having a physics degree, confesses that he doesn't have any proven justification, it's just what he reckons.Anyway, back to the preferably-not-rocket-science of bottling a MSB two-row + saaz aroma. Smells FANTASTIC.
Tom
Surely though the less space left in the bottle would mean the co2 resulting in fermentation has nowhere to go but into the beer. More space left would mean a small amount would of the co2 would be sitting in that pocket. This would have to be so minimal though. Ive had a couple that have only been half filled at the end of bottling and they carb up.
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"Gas in an unopened bottle of beer is in equilibrium. This means that at any given temperature, the gas pressure in the headspace and the amount of gas dissolved in the beer are constant. When you open a bottle of beer, you create an imbalance between the amount of CO2 in the beer and the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere above the beer. The amount of CO2 in the air is only about 0.2 percent of the total atmosphere, compared with 98 percent in a beer headspace. To restore equilibrium, the CO2 bubbles will leave the beer until balance is restored. That is why an open beer will always go flat over time. Of course agitation and warm temperatures will hasten this process."morgs wrote:Surely though the less space left in the bottle would mean the co2 resulting in fermentation has nowhere to go but into the beer. More space left would mean a small amount would of the co2 would be sitting in that pocket. This would have to be so minimal though. Ive had a couple that have only been half filled at the end of bottling and they carb up.
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On a side note, i just bottled my brew today and i decided to bottle until the last litre of brew. The last two tallies i filled i had to tilt the fermenter to get the beer to pour out. Im pretty sure i would have gotten alot of crud on the bottom of the fermenter in the bottles. Is this going to cause a serious problem when carbonating?
No it will be fine just try to mark the last bottle so you no which one it is but it will still be ok just might have a little more sediment than the others!chum wrote:On a side note, i just bottled my brew today and i decided to bottle until the last litre of brew. The last two tallies i filled i had to tilt the fermenter to get the beer to pour out. Im pretty sure i would have gotten alot of crud on the bottom of the fermenter in the bottles. Is this going to cause a serious problem when carbonating?
I get all the beer out of my fermenter doing this. It won't cause any problems at all.chum wrote:On a side note, i just bottled my brew today and i decided to bottle until the last litre of brew. The last two tallies i filled i had to tilt the fermenter to get the beer to pour out. Im pretty sure i would have gotten alot of crud on the bottom of the fermenter in the bottles. Is this going to cause a serious problem when carbonating?
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