Malt Shovel

[Timmsy]

Anyone tried these kits?? I got a couple Pales last night. What are thay like?

[DarkFaerytale]

have not tryed them personally timmsy but apparently there the beez kneez

here are some reviews for the pale ale

http://www.hbkitreviews.com/view-id-52- ... e-ale.html

-Phill

[Aussie Claret]

Have tried the pale ale, two can for 23l nothing else added, and was very very bland.

I'd be adding some hops for flavour and aroma.
AC

[Timmsy]

what you reckon a couple pakets of cascade finishing hops? any ideas would be welcome....

[rwh]

If you want something reminicent of an American Pale Ale (which I reckon are delicious), try 20g Cascade @ 5 minutes and 20g Cascade @ flameout. For a more traditional ale flavour, maybe try 10g @ 15 mins and 10g @ flameout.

[Timmsy]

If you want something reminicent of an American Pale Ale (which I reckon are delicious), try 20g Cascade @ 5 minutes and 20g Cascade @ flameout. For a more traditional ale flavour, maybe try 10g @ 15 mins and 10g @ flameout.

So i would add the 2 tins in a pot say with 3 ltrs of hot water (maybe 200grms dex) then add 20g of hops for 5 mins, switch of the heat after 5mins then add another 20g and let it cool.....??

I usually just use the t bag type but want to get into this type...

[rwh]

1. Add tins and 3L boiled water from your kettle to a pot.
2. Bring to low boil.
3. Add 20g hops, watch for boilovers (have a glass of cold water handy to quench if it starts to boil over).
4. Boil for 5 minutes.
5. Add 20g hops, remove from heat, put on lid.
6. Add 10L cold to your fermenter, through a seive if you have a good clean one (to help aerate the water).
7. Pour hot wort into fermenter.
8. Top up to 23L.
9. Pitch yeast.

You can strain out the hops when you add the wort to the fermenter, but I don't bother.

[Timmsy]

Bloody ledgend.... Thats a explaination. Cheers for that. That will help me out big time

[Biggles]

Ive just bottled a 21 lt batch of MSPA.
The fermeter had a really hoppy almost sour smell after emptying it. A heck of a lot stronger smell than the smell after racking off my TCB WetPack PA yesterday. I hope it wasnt infected or ? ?

I bulk primed with LDM at 10gr per litre.

[rwh]

I wouldn't worry about it, I often get quite a strong hops smell out of my fermenters, even after they've been in the cupboard for a few weeks and then sanitised with Idophor. If you have an infection there's nothing you can do about it now, just bottle and see how it is in a few weeks.

That's a good bulk prime level for LDME. In the high carbonation range, just how I like it.

[Boonie]

Anyone tried these kits?? I got a couple Pales last night. What are thay like?

Did the Lager....it was shite so I added 20g os Amarillo hop to try and cover up taste.

It could have been the heat which affected it......it made it to 26 degrees with the hot days we had.

[ACTbrewer]

I tried a couple of them...was thoroughly underwhelmed!

[Eureka]

I brewed a two-row lager a few weeks ago but haven't had a chance to try it yet.

Reviews of the two-row can be found at:

http://www.hbkitreviews.com/view-id-50- ... lager.html[/url]

[pacman]

Timmsy,

Was given a Malt Shovel kit last Christmas and became a HBr once again, after a 20 year absence. Reignited the flame, which has remained alight ever since.

The first couple of kits were very flavoursome, not just to me, but to other experienced beer drinkers. But for me the beers quickly became one dimensional - plenty of malt, but seemed to be lacking in other areas.

Hence my journey using alternative cans with no additional fermentables.
So far, most have turned out better & more interesting than the MS cans!

Now have 3 MS 11.5L fermenters, so what do I do with the kit cans that came with them? Put them down last week, as per instructions, but each with the addition of a Morgans Fuggles hops bag, also prepared as instructed.

Am reasonably confident that these will turn out to be quite decent beers, but only time will tell.

[damonpeyo]

What is the average starting gravity with this? got two tins of malt shovel lagers because they were on special. They average 5% alc/vol I guess?

[mikey]

I've been pretty happy with the MS kits I've used so far.

[pacman]

damonpeyo, my MS kits start at 1040. FG varies, depending on yeast varieties I suspect, & I must admit I muck around with these a bit.

Still have a couple of MS Twin Row Lager tins, but will wait & see how MS Pale Ale (English style PA - amber colour) with additional hops is before I put down these babies.

[damonpeyo]

I did this yesterday, though myself "f**k it"

2 x Malt Shovel Pale Ale
400g Corn Syurp
300g LDM
20 x 20 Tettenager Hop Pellets
125g Roasted Black Malt - Steeped for 30 mins and rinsed out into small saucepan where Tettenager Hops were being boiled.

Lethaldog - Now I understand now and can taste the differences of not boiling the Black Malt's husk, after that small error with my last Oat Stout experiment.

SG - 1.052

[lethaldog]

[damonpeyo]

I did this yesterday, though myself "f**k it"

2 x Malt Shovel Pale Ale
400g Corn Syurp
300g LDM
20 x 20 Tettenager Hop Pellets
125g Roasted Black Malt - Steeped for 30 mins and rinsed out into small saucepan where Tettenager Hops were being boiled.

Lethaldog - Now I understand now and can taste the differences of not boiling the Black Malt's husk, after that small error with my last Oat Stout experiment.

SG - 1.052

I bottled this today FG - 1.015, I am impressed, even drank a glass while bottling this, got a interesting aroma, like mix of roasted something with hops kicked in.

Look forward to sample this in couple of months.