Cascade Hops in a Coopers Sparkling Ale

Swifty · Post by **Swifty** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 3:22 pm

Hey Guys, I'm about to make a Coopers Sparkling Ale as per can instructions but I have some Cascade Hops and was going to use them. Has anyone done this and was it any good or should I not bother with them because it will just ruin the brew? It seems alot of poeple use Pride of Ringwood but I can't get to the brew shop and have the Cascade laying around. Any thoughts? Thanks.

gregb · Post by **gregb** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 3:38 pm

Shouldn't be a problem, just wont be as close to the shop CSA.

Cheers,
Greg

Swifty · Post by **Swifty** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 3:43 pm

Thanks Gregb, so what sort of flavour difference will there be. And should I be adding it for bitterness, flavour or aroma? I haven't experimented with hops much yet and am worried at the outcomes.

rwh · Post by **rwh** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 3:49 pm

I'd recommend you try something reasonably subtle to start with. Try adding 10 to 15g 10 mins before the end of your boil to add flavour. In this case, the difference will be a citrus/spice flavour at the start of each swig.

Swifty · Post by **Swifty** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 3:54 pm

Cool, I will try that then. Thanks for the advice.

lethaldog · Post by **lethaldog** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 4:25 pm

american pales use cascade

either way you wont ruin it

Swifty · Post by **Swifty** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 4:32 pm

I know it won't be a perfect clone of the CSA but I did want something resembling it in some way. I like APA's too so no loss.
I'm going to make a Yeast starter from a bottle of CSA tonight but will have to do the brew tomorrow night 'cause I'm going away for the weekend. Hope it's roaring by then or I'll have to leave it till next week. I don't like the sounds of that though!

rwh · Post by **rwh** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 4:50 pm

I reckon the Coopers Sparkling has a flavour quite akin to Cascade hops, so it should be quite in-character. Should be interesting anyway.

Here's a recipe for an all extract/all grain version of this you might like to try next time.

lethaldog · Post by **lethaldog** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 4:56 pm

Swifty wrote:I know it won't be a perfect clone of the CSA but I did want something resembling it in some way. I like APA's too so no loss.
I'm going to make a Yeast starter from a bottle of CSA tonight but will have to do the brew tomorrow night 'cause I'm going away for the weekend. Hope it's roaring by then or I'll have to leave it till next week. I don't like the sounds of that though!

Dont worry if the starter doesnt bubble like a mad man ( in the starter bottle) i did one last week and it did practically nothin in the starter but i pitched it anyway and it took off with no probs, so just make it up and let it sit over night and no matter what happens pitch it tommorow night and she will be cool

rwh · Post by **rwh** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 4:58 pm

lethaldog wrote:i did one last week and it did practically nothin in the starter but i pitched it anyway and it took off with no probs

I did the exact same thing, and despite taking a bit longer to get going (say about 36 hours) it's now burling along like anything. Those Coopers yeasts really are voracious.

Cortez The Killer · Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 5:07 pm

isn't CSA renowned for its use of POR?

lethaldog · Post by **lethaldog** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 5:10 pm

Cortez The Killer wrote:isn't CSA renowned for its use of POR?

Yes it certainly is and plenty of it

rwh · Post by **rwh** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 7:03 pm

Oh sure, I just think the POR tastes a bit like Cascade in the CSA. See if you can see what I mean next time you have one.

lethaldog · Post by **lethaldog** » Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 7:05 pm

rwh wrote:Oh sure, I just think the POR tastes a bit like Cascade in the CSA. See if you can see what I mean next time you have one.

Ive just bottled a apa and about to bottle the csa so it will be a good comparison, brewed pretty much the same except i added 500gm candy sugar to the csa and the apa used northern brewer and cascade

Swifty · Post by **Swifty** » Thursday Sep 14, 2006 7:55 am

Thanks for all the advice guys, you have curbed my fears. I made a starter last night and was extreemly cautious about everything so it should be a goer. I made a starter the other day but after three days there was still no bubbling so this one better work. Now I just have to wait, the hardest part!

Post by **Oliver** » Saturday Nov 11, 2006 7:32 pm

Swifty,

Sorry for the late reply, but you might find this thread of use/interest: http://www.homebrewandbeer.com/forum/vi ... .php?t=748

As you'll see, I reckon you will (would have?!) ended up with a beer a lot like Little Creatures Pale Ale.

Cheers,

Oliver

Swifty · Post by **Swifty** » Monday Nov 13, 2006 7:33 am

Thanks Oliver. It's been in the bottle now for about 5 or 6 weeks and there aren't alot left anymore. I'm yet to try the Little Creatures Pale ale but I've had a couple of people try this brew and they absolutely love it. I'm enjoying it too. I'm going to be doing my second all-grain on the weekend and am doing an American Pale ale, hopefully it will be as good or better.