Coopers on special at Big W

Boonie · Post by **Boonie** » Wednesday Jan 31, 2007 11:30 am

For the K&K'ers like me.

Draught, Lager, Real Ale & Dark on special, not the International Series though.

$9.32.

With the price of beer going up next week hopefully the kits wont as well.

Cheers

Boonie

rwh · Post by **rwh** » Wednesday Jan 31, 2007 11:47 am

The price of beer is going up next week!?

Pale_Ale · Post by **Pale_Ale** » Wednesday Jan 31, 2007 2:10 pm

Why wasn't I told?

vitalogy · Post by **vitalogy** » Wednesday Jan 31, 2007 2:23 pm

Excise increases fellas

KEG · Post by **KEG** » Wednesday Jan 31, 2007 2:34 pm

oh, that's totally gay.

i wonder if the bottles are cheap, i need some more...

SpillsMostOfIt · Wednesday Jan 31, 2007 2:38 pm

vitalogy wrote:Excise increases fellas

Score one for the home brewers.

vitalogy · Post by **vitalogy** » Wednesday Jan 31, 2007 5:30 pm

SpillsMostOfIt wrote:
vitalogy wrote:Excise increases fellas
Score one for the home brewers.

Don't be too smug. First they target the pub drinkers, then they come for the home brewers

It's be great though - if they started taxing HB kits, there'd be a bunch of brewers en masse starting to do all grain...they can't put excise on a bag of barley.

Rysa · Post by **Rysa** » Wednesday Jan 31, 2007 5:57 pm

Bottles went back up to $11.??. at Big W. PET i gather? They were $10.28 last week.

Pale_Ale · Post by **Pale_Ale** » Wednesday Jan 31, 2007 6:16 pm

What is the excise on? Is it on packaged alcohol beverages? Or will it affect home brewing?

beernut · Post by **beernut** » Wednesday Jan 31, 2007 6:30 pm

Just on packaged & bulk (commercial) I believe. A pot up to $3.60 @ the bar. Everyone knows that beer is evil, so its just the government looking
after our interests. They always know best

OldBugman · Post by **OldBugman** » Wednesday Jan 31, 2007 8:23 pm

But the drought will see an increase in malt grain costs which will be passed onto the homebrewer, nothing as bad as the tax on comercial beer though

SpillsMostOfIt · Post by **SpillsMostOfIt** » Thursday Feb 01, 2007 5:46 am

vitalogy wrote:
SpillsMostOfIt wrote:
vitalogy wrote:Excise increases fellas
Score one for the home brewers.
Don't be too smug. First they target the pub drinkers, then they come for the home brewers It's be great though - if they started taxing HB kits, there'd be a bunch of brewers en masse starting to do all grain...they can't put excise on a bag of barley.

First AG happens this weekend, using a slightly modified version of (AHB) PistolPatch's Brew In A Bag technique.

Danzar · Post by **Danzar** » Thursday Feb 01, 2007 12:08 pm

vitalogy wrote:
SpillsMostOfIt wrote:
vitalogy wrote:Excise increases fellas
Score one for the home brewers.
Don't be too smug. First they target the pub drinkers, then they come for the home brewers It's be great though - if they started taxing HB kits, there'd be a bunch of brewers en masse starting to do all grain...they can't put excise on a bag of barley.

They wouldn't go for home brewers. I'll tell you something interesting (at least to me). There are three reasons for an excise.

1. It makes the Government a buck (and there's not enough of a buck to make from us).
2. There are certains goods that are inherently cheap, which could lead to too much consumption, which in turn, is a bad thing (tobacco, alcohol, fuel - it's non-renewable). Excise controls the demand for these products. You can't stick excise on HB as it's not considered to be an alcohol.
3. It's used as a tool to create alternative sectors. Throw an excise on petroleum you get people looking for alternate energy supplies. Stick it on wine, you get wineries to open their cellar doors to the public, which leads to restaurants, tourism etc (there's no excise on wine sold at the cellar door). Now, HB stores and the HB industry itself is a classic 'alternate' sector.

Interesting stuff. May make you think a bit differently.

(Still prefer cheap beer though!)

rwh · Post by **rwh** » Thursday Feb 01, 2007 12:25 pm

Haha well, a club I'm in (we play music) adjourns to the pub after rehearsals... maybe they'll start adjourning to my place after they discover my kegging system... they can reimburse me for malt, yeast and hops, right?

blandy · Post by **blandy** » Thursday Feb 01, 2007 1:48 pm

As long as you can cook a good parma, rwh.

Cortez The Killer · Thursday Feb 01, 2007 3:18 pm

Danzar wrote:[ (there's no excise on wine sold at the cellar door).

The price at the doors (in the hunter anyway) is still significantly more than at dan murphy's. I suppose it's the whole tourist thing driving the prices.

SpillsMostOfIt · Post by **SpillsMostOfIt** » Friday Feb 02, 2007 6:31 am

I don't mind paying a little more at the cellar door if I think I am getting something in excess of what I get at a chain liquor outlet.

Some of the smarter winery operators understand this point of view and make visiting their winery more than just hanging around in a dank part of their cellar and sipping wine that's too warm out of cheap plastic sampling containers, complaining about the ferking tourists that just come for a cheap drink and never buy anything, ruining the access roads in their four-wheel-drives... oops.

The Brown Brothers cafe experience at Rutherglen or the Gapsted cafe on the Snow Road are very pleasant things to do with one's spouse or wine-loving friends.

Is it too early for a beer?

Emo · Post by **Emo** » Friday Feb 02, 2007 11:00 am

beernut wrote:Just on packaged & bulk (commercial) I believe. A pot up to $3.60 @ the bar. Everyone knows that beer is evil, so its just the government looking
after our interests. They always know best

$3.60 a pot? That is ridiculous. No wonder I homebrew. I can do 30 bottles of decent beer for less than 6 pots.

rwh · Post by **rwh** » Friday Feb 02, 2007 11:31 am

I did a bit of a Google on this, couldn't find the relevant legislation or anything in The Age... anyone got a reference at all?

Danzar · Post by **Danzar** » Sunday Feb 04, 2007 11:56 am

rwh wrote:I did a bit of a Google on this, couldn't find the relevant legislation or anything in The Age... anyone got a reference at all?

Here you go:

http://www.ato.gov.au/businesses/pathwa ... 01_003_043

Should have everything you need.