Sorta Beez Neez Clone

[Shaunc]

Hi beer making peoples,

Over dinner in Canberra last night I was told of this recipe:

1 Coopers Canadian Blonde

1.5 kg Honey

1 cracked vanilla bean

Supposed to be a Beez Neez clone (I've never tasted the real stuff). Anyone tried a similar recipe? I'm intrigued to try it just for the hell of it.

[timmy]

Shaun,

I tried a similar one according to this recipe:

http://hyperfox.info/beer01.htm#10

I think the honey in your recipe will be way OTT; mine is has a very strong honey taste with only 300g + honey to prime. I prefer my brew to Beez Neez, but that's probably just bias. I do know that my brew gives me less hangovers than Beez Neez, though...

Cheers,

Tim

[gregb]

I'm intrigued to try it just for the hell of it.

No better reason to brew it really. Let us know how it comes out.

Cheers,
Greg

[Shaunc]

I like your recipe timmy as I have some BE2 and malt doing nothing at the moment. However the spirit of adventure does call so I might as well try both.

I'll let y'all know what happens.

[Shaunc]

Finally got to brewing this (the end of the hot weather has got me excited about brewing again - and a soon to be brew fridge).

No technique, just the can, honey, coopers yeast and vanilla bean into the fermenter along with appropriate amount of hot and cold water. OG was 1034 and fermentation happily going to plan.

[KEG]

the vanilla bean sounds like a great idea... i'm always looking for ways to spice things up a bit hehe.

[Emo]

Too much honey I think. It'd be very sweet. The honey porter I brew
(Wasa's recipe) only has 500grams and it's great.

[Shaunc]

Well, it has been bottled. Had a quick taste while bottling and seemed ok. Not an overtly strong honey taste.

Now to wait to see what happens after a few weeks in the bottles.

[Shaunc]

After just under 3 weeks in the bottle time for a taste.

The good news is that it is quite drinkable. Not as sweet as I'd though it would be but the honey is there however it doesn't over power the palate.

Could do with a bit more bottle time but I reckon it will be a nice, drinkable beer. A good one to keep in the bottle to ready it for the warmer months.

[rwh]

If you want it to be sweeter, forget adding more honey. In fact, honey makes beer drier. I'd go for 500g of yellow box and a butload of crystal for a beez neez clone. Say 500g light crystal, 50g choc. Add that to the Canadian kit plus 1kg of LDME and you should have a beer to appeal to any sweet tooth. The vanilla sounds good too. Jeeze, I might have to give this one a go myself!

[red dog]

I just put a beez nez down on Saturday. I used a can of mutons wheat beer, brewbooster and 250 grams of honey. I was told not to use a eucalypt based honey and found out from a bloke that the eucalyptus in the honey can kill off the yeast. bloke claims the oils will which can be used to sterilise stuff destroys the bacteria in the yeast. Can any one else elaborate on this as I would be interested in finding out if this is right or was I given a bit of duff gin.

[111222333]

I was under the impression that in high enough quantities the eucalyptus oils become over powering, and ruin the brew. Thinking about it, the antibiotic properties of eucalyptus make sense.

[rahne]

i tried a similar one the other day
1 can coopers Canadian
1 packet of coopers brew enhancer 2
500g honey
pride of ring wood hops

it tasted a little funny however it was only bottled a week ago a bit young so hopefully it will come good
also on another beez neez topic i found this

spoke to the brewer who makes beez neez at beertopia and although he didn't give me the full gain bill, its:

1/3 light malt
1/3 wheat malt
1/3 capalano honey
and pride of ringwood hops

it was originally made as a gift for the honey producers for capalano and the brewer sold the excess in the bar and as it was so successful he decided to put it in production

i was wondering what brew kit would be best to use the best quantities

[rwh]

Aaah ok so that explains things a bit, it's the wheat malt that gives you the sweet/tart flavours.

Might be a bit difficult to emulate that exactly using a kit, but you could try:

1 tin Thomas Coopers Brewmaster Selection Wheat Beer or Black Rock Whispering Wheat
1 kg LDME
500g Capilano honey

[rahne]

whats LDME

[gregb]

Light Dry Malt Extract.

See here for common terms.

Cheers,
Greg

[rahne]

do you recommend using pride of ring wood hops still

also will
1/3 light malt
1/3 wheat malt
1/3 capalano honey
and pride of ringwood hops

at the right amount make a beer to

[rwh]

do you recommend using pride of ring wood hops still

No, the kit should provide all the bittering hops that you need. Beez Neez is essentially malt-driven, so I'd avoid too much flavour or aroma hops, especially POR which is a very high alpha acid hop which makes it easy to overdo.

also will 1/3 light malt 1/3 wheat malt 1/3 capalano honey and pride of ringwood hops at the right amount make a beer to[o?]

Yup! That's what's called all-extract brewing. You're essentially controlling all of the flavour components yourself instead of using a pre-made kit.

[rahne]

I just put a beez nez down on Saturday. I used a can of mutons wheat beer, brewbooster and 250 grams of honey. I was told not to use a eucalypt based honey and found out from a bloke that the eucalyptus in the honey can kill off the yeast. bloke claims the oils will which can be used to sterilise stuff destroys the bacteria in the yeast. Can any one else elaborate on this as I would be interested in finding out if this is right or was I given a bit of duff gin.

my tafe lecture use brew as well he would put a hole lemon it the brew but after a couple of brews he removed the skin because the oils in the skin would ruin the brew

[rahne]

how about
Thomas Coopers Wheat Malt Extact can
1kg LDME
1 kg honey
pride of ringwood hops
yeast i don't know

23 liter
this covers the rule