Hi guys, I've not long joined and already seen a huge pocket of knowledge here.
While I'm probably already too late to ask the question (and yes I did search the forum to no avail), my wort has been brewing for 6 days now.
The main thing that has me so confused, is that in the instructions packaged with the yeast etc, it tells me to add all sugars etc to the wort.
Basically what I have done so far is:
1. Thoroughly cleaned and sanitised my kit
2. added in the 2 litres of boiling water with the contents of the kit (minus the yeast)
3. topped up to the required litres and maintained the temperature.
4. added the yeast and has been brewing since....
Absolutely no where in the instructions does it say how much sugar to add to the wort, it just says to add it, and even on your site i've read about adding all fermentable sugars.... Do I really have to add it? What's going to happen if I don't?
Complete Newbie, First Brew, Coopers Lager
You can add plenty of different types of Fermentables or "Sugar" to the brew.
Most on here will add 1 kg of Light Dry Malt (LDM) or 1.5 kg of Liquid Malt. Liquid malt on the can will alo say someting like "Unhopped Liquid Malt Extract". K&K brewers or "Kit and Kilo" brewers like yourself and myself will add the above. I have also added grains etc....you will try this eventually.
If you did not add it, it will be lower in alcohol and flavour.
Most on here will add 1 kg of Light Dry Malt (LDM) or 1.5 kg of Liquid Malt. Liquid malt on the can will alo say someting like "Unhopped Liquid Malt Extract". K&K brewers or "Kit and Kilo" brewers like yourself and myself will add the above. I have also added grains etc....you will try this eventually.
If you did not add it, it will be lower in alcohol and flavour.
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Green Horn
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Being a relative newby myself I can't really help too much but don't tip out your brew mate.
I would suggest that without the brewing sugar you will have very little alcohol content so why not just throw the brewing sugar in now and leave it for another week? Worst result it that you start from scratch which you are already thinking anyway.
As long as some rogue organism doesn't get into the brew you should be right ..... I think
Cheers,
Mick
I would suggest that without the brewing sugar you will have very little alcohol content so why not just throw the brewing sugar in now and leave it for another week? Worst result it that you start from scratch which you are already thinking anyway.
As long as some rogue organism doesn't get into the brew you should be right ..... I think
Cheers,
Mick
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thanks green horn
I was thinking about adding the sugar now and waiting another week, didnt' know if that was a bad thing or not, as i have read about people who leave their stills for 2 weeks instead of just one.
I was just soooo pissed off at coopers today, can't believe they didnt' mention it in the instructions, an since i threw the can out, can't remember if they wrote it on the side or not.... never fear, ill throw in the sugar, brew for another week, and see how it goes. Thanks for the tip.
I was just soooo pissed off at coopers today, can't believe they didnt' mention it in the instructions, an since i threw the can out, can't remember if they wrote it on the side or not.... never fear, ill throw in the sugar, brew for another week, and see how it goes. Thanks for the tip.
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Green Horn
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Don't worry too much about time frames mate. My 2nd brew is still sitting in the shed after 3 weeks and should be right to bottle tomorrow depending on my hydrometer reading.
Look for the clues that your brew has finished fermenting rather than relying on a fixed time frame.
Cheers,
Mick
Look for the clues that your brew has finished fermenting rather than relying on a fixed time frame.
Cheers,
Mick
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
- Henny Youngman
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did you buy the coopers kit?
thought so..welcome to the revolution!
next brew-
boil 2L of water in a 10L pot (i bought one only for beer, didnt want any curry or spaghetti tastes in brew), add 1kg of light malt extract liquid or light dry malt (see other threads for amounts and go for it), boil this for a half an hour to hour, keep stiring, dont let overflow!!
**over the course of the boil you could add hops for extra bitterness..if youre not ready for this yet, dont worry, the coopers cans are already hopped**
at end of boil, turn the flame out, and add the can of coopers to the big pot and stir throughout, i put this pot into a sink of cool water to bring the temp down but thats just me
i then pour this pot into my fermenter that has around 7-10 L of filtered cool water (love Brita systems), stir it in and fill up to 19-23 L your choice less volume seems to give me more flavor, go 19L!!
pitch yeast (you can stir it in or just let it be on top) seal the fermenter and put in your airlock
let it be for a week, and bottle
**if you added extra hops i would rack to another fermenter after a week or at 1020 specific gravity, when i am racking through my tube i put an old, but sanitised green tea filter over the end of the tube to catch hop sediment (clears it out good)
to everyone else hope this sounds good, or maybe its just my way right now..from a beginners poit of view thought i could help
b
oh yeah, go buy the joy of homebrewing by c. papazian 3rd edition what i got.
thought so..welcome to the revolution!
next brew-
boil 2L of water in a 10L pot (i bought one only for beer, didnt want any curry or spaghetti tastes in brew), add 1kg of light malt extract liquid or light dry malt (see other threads for amounts and go for it), boil this for a half an hour to hour, keep stiring, dont let overflow!!
**over the course of the boil you could add hops for extra bitterness..if youre not ready for this yet, dont worry, the coopers cans are already hopped**
at end of boil, turn the flame out, and add the can of coopers to the big pot and stir throughout, i put this pot into a sink of cool water to bring the temp down but thats just me
i then pour this pot into my fermenter that has around 7-10 L of filtered cool water (love Brita systems), stir it in and fill up to 19-23 L your choice less volume seems to give me more flavor, go 19L!!
pitch yeast (you can stir it in or just let it be on top) seal the fermenter and put in your airlock
let it be for a week, and bottle
**if you added extra hops i would rack to another fermenter after a week or at 1020 specific gravity, when i am racking through my tube i put an old, but sanitised green tea filter over the end of the tube to catch hop sediment (clears it out good)
to everyone else hope this sounds good, or maybe its just my way right now..from a beginners poit of view thought i could help
b
oh yeah, go buy the joy of homebrewing by c. papazian 3rd edition what i got.
You had me at dry hopping.
"let it be for a week, and bottle"---dohhhh
yeah i said that and then just reread it, arvodrinking!
instead of just guessingand or bottling after a week like i do alot, but with a few under my belt (so what the hell) , take a reading to see where your at, just bottled today, started at 1050 and ended up at 1012 for 2 continuous days, so i went for it, nice and bitter...
b
yeah i said that and then just reread it, arvodrinking!
instead of just guessingand or bottling after a week like i do alot, but with a few under my belt (so what the hell) , take a reading to see where your at, just bottled today, started at 1050 and ended up at 1012 for 2 continuous days, so i went for it, nice and bitter...
b
You had me at dry hopping.
are you in australia?
just wondering, my mate found some coopers in the states and rang me about iit.
id go for the coopers pale ale next, cant go wrng with that one, well you can but its hard to, ive down 5 now, keep trying something new all the time
if in melbourne, go to grain n grape in yarraville, i went to one of their demos they hold on usually on saturdays check there site
http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/
no affiliation, just loved going to buy products and getting to drink free beer and ask tons of questions
b
just wondering, my mate found some coopers in the states and rang me about iit.
id go for the coopers pale ale next, cant go wrng with that one, well you can but its hard to, ive down 5 now, keep trying something new all the time
if in melbourne, go to grain n grape in yarraville, i went to one of their demos they hold on usually on saturdays check there site
http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/
no affiliation, just loved going to buy products and getting to drink free beer and ask tons of questions
b
You had me at dry hopping.
I'm definately willing to try new brews, it seems so logical to brew ur own, ya get what? maybe 30 tallies outta a brew? So ill be sampling quite a few beers, an in between brewin beers, ill be makin quite a few litres of Drambui, i love the stuff.
I'm livin in QLD on the Sunshine Coast atm, there's a bloke bout 15 mins away runs a shop totally dedicated to home brews. Now THAT's handy
I'm livin in QLD on the Sunshine Coast atm, there's a bloke bout 15 mins away runs a shop totally dedicated to home brews. Now THAT's handy
Take a kilo of dextrose, LDME or Coopers Brew Enhancer 2. Add to a pot with a litre or two of water. Bring to the boil (watch it closely to make sure it doesn't boil over). Turn off the heat, add lid. Wait till it cools. Add it to your fermenter. Wait another week.
Either that, or just bottle it. You'll have a fairly tasty light beer, and can go on to your next brew having learned a little.
Either that, or just bottle it. You'll have a fairly tasty light beer, and can go on to your next brew having learned a little.
w00t!
Gotta agree with rwh.
Get one litre of plain ordinary H20 boiling. Turn off the gas, electricity ....whatever, add either 1kg of white sugar (not recommended), 1kg of dextrose (also not recommended), 1 kg of Coopers Brew Enhancer 2 (Is OK) or preferably 1 kg of Coopers Dry Light Malt.
Dissolve the sugar (any of the above) and let the sugar mixture cool to room temp.
Add this to your container and wait and see if fermentatiuon starts. You may have to swirl the container. If this doesn't happen then get back to us and we'll give you a new yeast to use that hopefully will help you out.
Here's what should happen when using a kit and kilo brew:
Bring 2 litres of water to the boil and dissolve 1 kg of dry liquid malt ( or dextrose, BE 2, BE1, brewing sigar etc.) and dissolve. Turn heat off and add kit to can ( warm contenets of can in hoit tap water for 10 minutes) to above mixture.
Make hop teabag of Hallertau, Tettnanger or Saaz hops (this can be purchased from any home brewing shop).
Ensure that fermenter is clean and sterilised and add above mixture (except hops) to fermenter and make up to between 20 and 22 litres (whatever kit says) and add hops.
Take reading from hydrometer and pitch yeast.
Allow fermentation to finish and take hydrometer readings and ensure they remain at same level for 3 days.
Clean and sterilise bottles, add priming sugar and bottle and cap.
Wait 3 months and enjoy the best beer you have ever drunk!!!
Easy, enjoy!!!!!
Get one litre of plain ordinary H20 boiling. Turn off the gas, electricity ....whatever, add either 1kg of white sugar (not recommended), 1kg of dextrose (also not recommended), 1 kg of Coopers Brew Enhancer 2 (Is OK) or preferably 1 kg of Coopers Dry Light Malt.
Dissolve the sugar (any of the above) and let the sugar mixture cool to room temp.
Add this to your container and wait and see if fermentatiuon starts. You may have to swirl the container. If this doesn't happen then get back to us and we'll give you a new yeast to use that hopefully will help you out.
Here's what should happen when using a kit and kilo brew:
Bring 2 litres of water to the boil and dissolve 1 kg of dry liquid malt ( or dextrose, BE 2, BE1, brewing sigar etc.) and dissolve. Turn heat off and add kit to can ( warm contenets of can in hoit tap water for 10 minutes) to above mixture.
Make hop teabag of Hallertau, Tettnanger or Saaz hops (this can be purchased from any home brewing shop).
Ensure that fermenter is clean and sterilised and add above mixture (except hops) to fermenter and make up to between 20 and 22 litres (whatever kit says) and add hops.
Take reading from hydrometer and pitch yeast.
Allow fermentation to finish and take hydrometer readings and ensure they remain at same level for 3 days.
Clean and sterilise bottles, add priming sugar and bottle and cap.
Wait 3 months and enjoy the best beer you have ever drunk!!!
Easy, enjoy!!!!!
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Sorry Swarvey,
Just got back on....a combination of Mothers Day and an Email with a virus locking my computer. McAfee Firewall/Spammkiller/Virus Protection my ass
Anyhow, the boys have covered it.
Boil the malt (Sugars) let it cool and add it.
On a seperate note, you can add Dextrose to some Kits, but as stated previously Malt is tastier. Dex with the Coopers Mexican IMO is pretty good. Reason behind my decision, Corona is not malty
Cheers
Boonie
Just got back on....a combination of Mothers Day and an Email with a virus locking my computer. McAfee Firewall/Spammkiller/Virus Protection my ass
Anyhow, the boys have covered it.
Boil the malt (Sugars) let it cool and add it.
On a seperate note, you can add Dextrose to some Kits, but as stated previously Malt is tastier. Dex with the Coopers Mexican IMO is pretty good. Reason behind my decision, Corona is not malty
Cheers
Boonie
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Too much looking at naked ladies?Boonie wrote:Sorry Swarvey,
Just got back on....a combination of Mothers Day and an Email with a virus locking my computer. McAfee Firewall/Spammkiller/Virus Protection my ass
Anyhow, the boys have covered it.
Boil the malt (Sugars) let it cool and add it.
On a seperate note, you can add Dextrose to some Kits, but as stated previously Malt is tastier. Dex with the Coopers Mexican IMO is pretty good. Reason behind my decision, Corona is not malty
Cheers
Boonie
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Hey guys, thanks all for ur suggestions.
I took the input, an (probably not to the letter). Grabbed a kilo o sugar, boiled it into 2L hot water on the stove, cooled it to room temp, then poured it in, making sure the lid wasn't off it for too long.
Today i sampled the brew and I'm not quite sure what I've done to f*#ck it up LOL but it tastes.... OK.
Although it seems very light in alcohol content (father in-law told me not to bother with hydrometer readings so i didnt.... please dont cyber-smack me). It did carbonate very well in hand-capped stubbies, not too much creek water in the bottom and has an almost apple-cider-esque taste to it. While tollerable, i think i'll get much better results with the next brew.
Thanks again guys (and maybe, but probably not jk) girls
P.S i've had a couple out of the batch, so if my text is slurred u know why.
I took the input, an (probably not to the letter). Grabbed a kilo o sugar, boiled it into 2L hot water on the stove, cooled it to room temp, then poured it in, making sure the lid wasn't off it for too long.
Today i sampled the brew and I'm not quite sure what I've done to f*#ck it up LOL but it tastes.... OK.
Although it seems very light in alcohol content (father in-law told me not to bother with hydrometer readings so i didnt.... please dont cyber-smack me). It did carbonate very well in hand-capped stubbies, not too much creek water in the bottom and has an almost apple-cider-esque taste to it. While tollerable, i think i'll get much better results with the next brew.
Thanks again guys (and maybe, but probably not jk) girls
P.S i've had a couple out of the batch, so if my text is slurred u know why.
