deuchars ipa

[Kevnlis]

As you remember what this beer style is like, I see no reason not to follow the doctor's orders on this one

I have to agree it probably needs some aroma hops.

Next he is going to tell you to take 2L and call him in the morning, or afternoon, when ever it is you get out of bed

[Chewie]

sounds good Kevnlis, I might do that too, once its drinkable

[Trough Lolly]

TL, only problem is that Chewie wants to clone Deuchars IPA which doesnt fit into the BJCP guidelines for an IPA. It is closer to an ESB or a mild IMHO. Its around 4% abv and very easy to drink from the handpull, not in your face hoppy. I agree that an IPA should be malty and hoppy.

Agreed - points well made Doc - it's more of an ESB, IMHO...

Cheers,
TL

[drsmurto]

Apologies for going OT but...

TL - noticed your IPA recipe on AHB and am pencilling an IPA for early in the new year.

Got any comments/adjustments since you made this? Am really looking for a traditional IPA. Big, malty and hoppy but not out of balance.

Cheers
DrSmurto

[Trough Lolly]

G'day Doc....it's admittedly been a while since I last brewed a batch of this IPA, but I do remember the taste well!

To my palate, it was pretty much in order balance wise although you might want to change the hop schedule to 60/40/20 minute additions and then up the final addition of fuggles to 20g. I've been enjoying the 60/40/20 hopping schedule of late and it would be interesting to see how it fares in this fairly robust ale. In terms of grains, you could get by with 350g of Crystal if you don't have any amber malt, but I find the bairds amber malt is an excellent grain for IPA's, ESB's and Irish Reds - that's why I have a 25kg sack of it in the cellar!!

Oh dammit, I'll just have to brew a batch as well! I'm out of 1028 but I suppose some S-04 will do the job. It's an awesome Sunday beer - as long as you've got Monday off!!

Cheers,
TL
P.S. Apologies for the drift O/T

[tazman67]

Hi all
I am about to try this recipe, but i am planning to use 12G of Styrian Goldings in the boil and 15G for dry hop.
I found the following info. http://www.caledonian-brewery.co.uk/ipa_tasting.html.
the only other changes I have made are....
Crystal (60 EBC) to 150G
Yeast S-04 Ale yeast, will see how this turns out before going to liquid.
Keep us posted Chewie, ill do the same on how mine turned out.
Cheers

[drsmurto]

Back OT......

about to put an order in for some amber malt, hopefully Bairds, if not, Joe White. I have a few yeasts to choose from. Dry i have nottingham and S-04. Liquid i have 1098 and i may get my hands of some 1469 (TTL) in the next few days. I was going to try out the nottingham cos i have never used it. Also about to buy 500g of EKG to keep me brewing english ales for the foreseeable future. So recipe is as follows.

5.00 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 89.29 %
0.20 kg Amber Malt (Joe White) (45.3 EBC) Grain 3.57 %
0.20 kg Crystal (Joe White) (141.8 EBC) Grain 3.57 %
0.20 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (216.7 EBC) Grain 3.57 %
40.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (60 min) Hops 22.5 IBU
40.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (40 min) Hops 19.8 IBU
30.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 10.2 IBU
20.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
0.50 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-)

20.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -

OG 1.062, IBU 53

Any comments (TL in particular since its based on your recipe). I could use NB for bittering but was going to save that for my golden and yank ales.

Cheers
DrSmurto

[tazman67]

Update,
Putting this done at the w/end:
Thomas Cooper IPA can
Coopers Amber Malt 1.5kg
Crystal (60) 200g

Fuggles 4.4AA 12G @60m
Styrians Goldings 8.00 AA 12G @ 60m

Styrians Goldings 15G @20m
Williamette 4.6AA 15G @ 20m

E/K Goldings 5.2AA 15g @ f/out
Fuggles 15g @f/out

Questions ?? 1) Will this be too..bitter ? Havnt got any software to run the figures. Hoping for a IBU of about 34-36.
2) would I be better to save the kit and sub for malt ?
Thanks guys for any help or comments on this, just started into extract brewing.

[Trough Lolly]

Back OT......

about to put an order in for some amber malt, hopefully Bairds, if not, Joe White. I have a few yeasts to choose from. Dry i have nottingham and S-04. Liquid i have 1098 and i may get my hands of some 1469 (TTL) in the next few days. I was going to try out the nottingham cos i have never used it. Also about to buy 500g of EKG to keep me brewing english ales for the foreseeable future. So recipe is as follows.

5.00 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 89.29 %
0.20 kg Amber Malt (Joe White) (45.3 EBC) Grain 3.57 %
0.20 kg Crystal (Joe White) (141.8 EBC) Grain 3.57 %
0.20 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (216.7 EBC) Grain 3.57 %
40.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (60 min) Hops 22.5 IBU
40.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (40 min) Hops 19.8 IBU
30.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 10.2 IBU
20.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
0.50 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-)

20.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -

OG 1.062, IBU 53

Any comments (TL in particular since its based on your recipe). I could use NB for bittering but was going to save that for my golden and yank ales.

Cheers
DrSmurto

I was going to recommend the Nottingham yeast, but you've already done it!
I've decided to jump on the IPA bandwagon and I'll do a 10 Gallon batch of this on the long weekend - time to give the mashtun another decent flogging after installing the new thermometer and ballvalve!


Regarding my original recipe, I'll try a couple of tweaks: I'll drop the Carapils and replace the Munich I with Munich II. I like the combination of NB for bittering and Goldings for the rest - they seem to go together nicely for my palate and as you say, you're effectively closer to original style by using Goldings throughout anyway. I don't normally dry hop an IPA (lazy) but I'll follow your lead and dry hop in secondary with a decent serving of Goldings as well!

Cheers,
TL

[drsmurto]

Nice mash tun TL!

Was hoping to get a cylindrical esky for mashing but they are bloody rare. Noice!

[Trough Lolly]

I lucked in when my brother was posted to Texas for a couple of years - he picked one up at the local mall for under US$50 and posted it back (along with a 12 inch Morebeer stainless screen inside)!!