Brew in a Bucket

General homebrew discussion, tips and help on kit and malt extract brewing, and talk about equipment. Queries on sourcing supplies and equipment should go in The Store.
Post Reply
pfullarton
Posts: 11
Joined: Friday Dec 21, 2007 2:52 pm

Brew in a Bucket

Post by pfullarton »

Gday all,

Making a fresh lager today, and I'm experimenting with a new way to keep the fermenter cool. I have a large bucket that I have the fermenter sitting in, and I have filled the bucket up with water and some ice and plan on keep checking it to keep the temp between 10 and 15 degrees.

Has anyone tried something like this before?

Any thoughts or comments?

Cheers
User avatar
rwh
Posts: 2810
Joined: Friday Jun 16, 2006 1:47 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by rwh »

Yep, I've done this before, and I found that I would get infections after racking. I guessed at the time that it was insects falling into the water and fouling the inside of the tap. If you use this technique, I would suggest that you siphon.
w00t!
User avatar
shimmy
Posts: 40
Joined: Wednesday Feb 06, 2008 10:05 am
Location: south canberra

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by shimmy »

yeah ive been doing it for my last few brews, havent had any dramas. yet.. i keep mine in the laundry so i dont get too many insects in there
Kevnlis
Posts: 3380
Joined: Tuesday Jul 10, 2007 5:15 pm
Location: B-Rat
Contact:

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by Kevnlis »

I suggest you siphon the beer out as well. If not I would give the tap a good squirt (inside and out) with your no-rinse and discard the first bit out of the fermentor.
Prost and happy brewing!

Image
O'Brien Gluten Free Beer
Ed
Posts: 431
Joined: Monday Jan 02, 2006 5:59 pm
Location: Perth WA

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by Ed »

I fermented the same way before using a fridge. Use some sanitiser in the the chilling water, I used the pink stuff and then kept recycling it by taking out ice cream buckets full and freezing those.

Cheers, Ed
So the bartender says to the horse "Why the long face?"
Chris
Posts: 3716
Joined: Tuesday Oct 04, 2005 1:35 pm
Location: Northern Canberra

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by Chris »

Good old laundry sink for me. Worked well. Still do it occasionally if the fridge is full.
A beer in the hand is worth two in George Bush...

"They say beer will make me dumb. It are go good with pizza"
Psychostick
pfullarton
Posts: 11
Joined: Friday Dec 21, 2007 2:52 pm

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by pfullarton »

ok, i put mine on last night at about 10pm, brew was at about 10 degrees (recipie said brew between 10 and 15). Nothing has happened yet, temp is at about 15.

This is only my second brew, my first one fermented right out of the airlock. I didnt see any action then got home from work and found an empty airlock and foam eveywhere. So i want to make sure I get this one right!

Thoughts?
Chris
Posts: 3716
Joined: Tuesday Oct 04, 2005 1:35 pm
Location: Northern Canberra

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by Chris »

It's just a bit of lag on the part of your yeast. Nothing to worry about.
A beer in the hand is worth two in George Bush...

"They say beer will make me dumb. It are go good with pizza"
Psychostick
Kevnlis
Posts: 3380
Joined: Tuesday Jul 10, 2007 5:15 pm
Location: B-Rat
Contact:

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by Kevnlis »

Pick a temperature and try to keep the beer as close to that temperature as you can over the next week or so. If the yeast suggested 10C-15C you should probably pick a temperature closer to 10C than 15C. The lower the temp, and the more constant the temp, the better the final product will be.
Prost and happy brewing!

Image
O'Brien Gluten Free Beer
pfullarton
Posts: 11
Joined: Friday Dec 21, 2007 2:52 pm

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by pfullarton »

well its been 4 days now, and the beer hasn't started fermenting yet. There are no bubbles coming out of the air lock. Something is happening because when i push down lon the lid some gas comes through, but thats it!! It has been at 14 degrees constantly.

Thoughts?
User avatar
KEG
Posts: 1682
Joined: Thursday Dec 21, 2006 9:02 am

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by KEG »

any condensation? any bubbles on the surface? any layer of yeast visible sitting on the bottom of the fermenter? take a hydrometer reading - has it changed?
Image
Chris
Posts: 3716
Joined: Tuesday Oct 04, 2005 1:35 pm
Location: Northern Canberra

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by Chris »

Remember that it is a lager- it's bottom-fermenting, so there won't be krausen going everywhere.

I agree with KEG, take a hydro reading. I've had beers that I thought weren't doing anything, but 4 days later they had fermented out fully.
A beer in the hand is worth two in George Bush...

"They say beer will make me dumb. It are go good with pizza"
Psychostick
pfullarton
Posts: 11
Joined: Friday Dec 21, 2007 2:52 pm

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by pfullarton »

ok. There is condensation, and it bubbled once before. Being only my third brew (the first two having had stuff go everywhere) I was expecting to see the "constant bubbling" that all the instructions talk about. Didn't realise it wasnt so with lagers.
Kevnlis
Posts: 3380
Joined: Tuesday Jul 10, 2007 5:15 pm
Location: B-Rat
Contact:

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by Kevnlis »

Most likely the lid is not sealed properly.

At those low temps the yeast does not take off as rapidly, nor does it ferment as quickly. Be patient, give it another week or so then bottle.

The best way to know what is going on is to put the airlock in the bin and use your hydrometer. 8)
Prost and happy brewing!

Image
O'Brien Gluten Free Beer
Chris
Posts: 3716
Joined: Tuesday Oct 04, 2005 1:35 pm
Location: Northern Canberra

Re: Brew in a Bucket

Post by Chris »

Kevnlis wrote:The best way to know what is going on is to put the airlock in the bin and use your hydrometer.
Damn right!
A beer in the hand is worth two in George Bush...

"They say beer will make me dumb. It are go good with pizza"
Psychostick
Post Reply