640ML BOTTLES

Grabbie · Post by **Grabbie** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 2:39 pm

I have been using the Coopers carbonation drops, which states use 1 for 375ml stubbie or 2 for 740ml long necks.
I have some 640ml long necks - do you think I will get away with priming these with 2 drops?
Some of the carbonation drops look different sizes so there must be a bit of tolerance there?
If not can someone tell me the correct measure for 640ml longnecks?
Cheers,
Grabbie

nanna Gail · Post by **nanna Gail** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 4:25 pm

The same sort of question applies to the Vic Bitter bottles which are now 800ml unless I am mistaken (yes I know I need glasses)
Before I realized they were this millage I put in 1 teaspoon of sugar then went back and added another 1/4 teaspoon. Am I roughly near the mark????

Evo · Post by **Evo** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 4:56 pm

I just spoke to my HBS guy and he said he had new long necks for sale. The only thing was they are 640ml (are yours bought Grabbie ?). So I too was thinking about this when a light went off in my head and two words flashed at me as if in neon. Bulk prime.

Easy, peasy, lemon squeezy.

Grabbie · Post by **Grabbie** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 4:58 pm

Yes these bottles were bought.
Bulk prime - hmmmmmmmm haven't tried that yet.
Cheers

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 5:02 pm

nanna Gail wrote:The same sort of question applies to the Vic Bitter bottles which are now 800ml unless I am mistaken (yes I know I need glasses)
Before I realized they were this millage I put in 1 teaspoon of sugar then went back and added another 1/4 teaspoon. Am I roughly near the mark????

I'd stick with the 1 tsp. What you really need is 1 1/15 tsp. Bulk priming is your friend here.

Tony

Evo · Post by **Evo** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 5:18 pm

How much did you pay Grabbie ? Got a quote from my HBS of $1 a bottle. Sounds reasonable.

gregb · Post by **gregb** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 7:16 pm

Paid about $13 per dozen for the 640's from Big W.

Highly recommend bulk priming.

Cheers,

Greg.

Post by **Oliver** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 9:04 pm

It also depends on what sort of beer you've got.

If it's a dark beer such as a stout, which shouldn't be particulary carbonated, you could probably get away with one carbonation drop.

The problem is that two is probably too much for a 640ml bottle (you'd be adding 17% more priming sugar than if you were using a 750ml bottle).

You could always buy a sugar scoop from the homebrew shop. Some have measures for 375, 640 and 750ml bottles.

Oliver

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 9:08 pm

Dare I say it?

Dogger

Evo · Post by **Evo** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 9:39 pm

I beat you to it Dogger

Next time someone asks about the best fridge to buy that will fit the most kegs in it, I'll leave it to you

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 10:30 pm

Friggin Time zones,

Curses, Sir Sandford Flemming and Chris Columbus. The world was way better flat

Dogger

munkey · Post by **munkey** » Tuesday Jun 14, 2005 10:39 pm

if the world was flat i could have a trap door to auz.

undercover1 · Post by **undercover1** » Wednesday Jun 15, 2005 8:19 am

Nanna Gail, or anyone else, try this:
Based on the carbonation level desired, dextrose to add- grams/litre
High 7 - 10
Medium 4 - 6
Low 0 - 3
and no, I don't know who wants low carbonation in their beer.

But anyway, doing some simple maths, for a 19 litre batch that would be:
H- 135 - 190g
M- 75 - 115g
L- 0 - 55g

and so on
23 litres
160 - 230g
90 - 140g
0 - 70g

40 litres
280 - 400g
160 - 240g
0 - 120g

Bulk priming before bottling is no more difficult than racking after primary fermentation. The same rules of cleanliness & avoiding aeration apply, but then again you need no more equipment.

Salut!

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Wednesday Jun 15, 2005 9:14 am

Undercover,

Thank You, I never did want to do the math on that, you are becoming very handy

By the way, I would recommend racking twice, but thats just me

Dogger

Grabbie · Post by **Grabbie** » Wednesday Jun 15, 2005 10:20 am

I got screwed on the bottles first dzn was from a brew shop $1.25ea.
That was all they had - next dzn from local hardware store $1.80ea
I live in the country so everything is a rip off.

Anyway back to how to bulk prime.........
Would the following be ok?
I have 22.5 litres of Coopers Pale sitting there, it fermented at abou 20-22deg although at one stage hit 26deg (forgot to turn off heat pad)

From what I have read I should disolve 100 grams of dextrose in 200ml of water in a saucepan and boil for a couple of minutes, then add to the fermenter and stir gently(3 turns with the spoon?) just before bottling.
Is that it?
Any suggestions appreciated.
Cheers,
Grabbie

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Wednesday Jun 15, 2005 10:28 am

Just me Grabbie but I am thinking 180 g

Dogger

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Wednesday Jun 15, 2005 10:32 am

I consider 100gm way too low for that qty of a beer like Pale Ale: I would go for somewhere between 160 and 200 (depending on your preference).
Various guidance offered on this forum. More detailed guidance (incl, as I recall, a nomograph), in Palmer's How to Brew http://www.howtobrew.com/
or in print form from good bookstores everywhere

Grabbie · Post by **Grabbie** » Wednesday Jun 15, 2005 11:35 am

Thanks guys I'll try 180g
Cheers,
Grabbie

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