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Posted: Monday Sep 05, 2005 12:45 pm
by Guest
"grassy" taste

Posted: Tuesday Sep 06, 2005 8:26 pm
by Oliver
Dogger Dan wrote:Yeast doesn't share the "oh, sorry, I will give you a little space too" attitude. It is truely Darwinian and one will dominate to the exclusion of the other if there are two in the mix. Normally it is the one that can gety started faster and has the optimum growing conditions, normally the ale.
Dogger,

You may well be right. I was theorising.

But I can't see that it's out of the question that both could survive happily alongside each other.

What about abbey beers that are spntaneously fermented? Is only one type of yeast present and active? Also, Cooper's used to use a blend, I believe.

Oliver

Posted: Wednesday Sep 07, 2005 2:39 am
by Dogger Dan
Its a yeast eat yeast world out their Oliver. I think Coopers did it so they could get larger brewing conditions (speculating on my part)

Spontaneously ferment? Sounds a bit like Divine Intervention. :wink:

All bets are off when a Deity becomes involved :wink:

Chances are those yeasts have pretty compatable conditions, I was actually refering to a Lager vs an Ale.

If you pitch one of each, the one that has the best conditions will preveil. For example, I have a Coopers Lager and a Coopers SAF Lager. I pitch them at 75 deg F, which do you think will blow the lid off the fermentor?

I have Coopers Ales which are done and dusted in two days. I have Lagers which are just getting going after two days. So that little old lager had a snowballs chance of adding anything to the beer.

That being said if you could find a yeastie that is happy to chew on malto-dextrins then it will impart some of its charecter into the beer, although you would be pissed at it as you would have no head retention but hey, thats another issue.

Dogger